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Neal_SE30
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Reply #135 on: October 23, 2022, 17:33
where did it go before you found a work around? I'm intrigued??? |
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #136 on: October 23, 2022, 17:52
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It went astray with my old keyboard. Seems it didn't like my new BT "human interface device" with UK layout. Its a rather pricy design and the '~' stayed where it belonged under Debian, but vanished in MacOS and was instead replaced with the § sign. Given that I run my MacOS with US English that's rather befuddling, but I hate spending too much time hunting down single characters. Anyway, now I got it back Jack and it won't escape again. 
Last Edit: October 24, 2022, 04:03 by 68040
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MTT
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256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer
Reply #137 on: October 24, 2022, 03:33
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Quote from: Bolkonskij I recall two browsers for System 6, and you know at least one of them :-)Thanks for those links. Unfortunately for me, I don't have a SSW6 Mac capable of network use, to test, let alone WWW. It looks as though you may have briefly tried MacWWW, going by your comment left on that page. It doesn't look like a promising option for accessing S7T  As flaky as browser6 is, it may have more luck accessing S7T using SSW6. I believe those two (green colored) screenshots on the browser6 page are mine. They show what it looked like while attempting to access the MG - before it crashed. All up there really isn't anything seriously on offer for SSW6 I had hoped MacWeb could have helped out here, but it's 7.0 and above. MacWeb was the first browser I ever successfuly used - On a Mac SE, too. 
Last Edit: October 24, 2022, 03:35 by MTT
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB  Posts: 2023
Reply #138 on: October 24, 2022, 13:00
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Actually, I only later realized that I had it tried out before. For whatever reason, it mixed with NCSA Mosaic in my memories. Given System 7 Today utilizes color images for the graphics, those browsers are likely to have a hard time accessing anything that isn't a pure HTML page with text. And hey, back we are with Gopher, which is basically the same thing, though much more elegantly incorporated :-) It's interesting nobody ever supplied System 6 with even a bare-bones web browser. But then System 6 was well into pension at the time the whole WWW thing really took off during the mid 90s. Add in to the fact that no Open Transport runs on System 6 and you're stuck with MacTCP. Coding with/for MacTCP is no fun, I'm sure.
Last Edit: October 24, 2022, 13:03 by Bolkonskij
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Cashed
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128 MB Posts: 192 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #139 on: October 24, 2022, 14:02
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Funny you should mention that one Bolkonskij. As I was testing brower6 and MacWWW out on Executor -MacWWW is a no go as it requires MacTCP and since Executor does not have a real System folder, there's no folder for Control Panels either. Interesting result using browser6 And NCSA Mosaic Version 1.0.3 was for system 7.0.0, so trying to locate an earlier version. Who knows maybe the initial or beta was for System 6.0.8. -can't wait to test them on real hardware. Quote from: Cameron Kaiser - His first website, that I know of are from 2001. Link to quote So I digged a little deeper. The Hitchhikers Guide to the Internet ~1984 Found the source code Here's a fun one - try hit return @68040 not quite -but it sure does count A very important one '~' used when excavating old user sites PS -the NCSA screenshot is only showing a local.html
Last Edit: October 24, 2022, 14:14 by Cashed
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Knezzen
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Administrator 512 MB Posts: 608 Village idiot
Reply #140 on: October 24, 2022, 17:56
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Going to install a DAW on my 8600. Can't decide if I'd go with Cubase or Logic thogh. Pre 8 versions of Logic are quite horrible. Might go with Cubase 
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Cashed
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128 MB Posts: 192 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #141 on: October 24, 2022, 20:32
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Good choise! - I don't fancy the earlier Logic versions either, got an XS USB key (found in a thrift shop sticking out of the back on a G5)ps don't go looking for an earlier version of NCSA Mosaic -there are none This research is just for preparations -but sure I'll test it, when I get the hardware. To be honest, I really don't care that much about the browser options for my SE. I merely got my SE/20 so I could run some of the really ancient software that the emulation guys can't. I'll have all the Systems installed on mine, from SWW 1.1 to 6.0.8 (Even maybe 7+.) My model supports 3.3 - 7.5.5. But there has been one report of one user running System 1.1 on the SE (lowendmac site) Then I'll use @adespoton's trick to swap OS versions for any OS between 0.9.8 and 6.0.8 without having to reboot at all. There's also 5-6-7 INIT
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #142 on: October 26, 2022, 00:30
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Hey guys. Knezzen i put on cubase light on my se/30 but i think that my options were limited on b&w macs. You can vst on later versions. It took a while to get mine configured through midimac and a roland sound canvas. I’ve not got to grips with how cubase/daw works yet, maybe you can help. I have a few other midi programs and know it all works as my midi keyboard 🎹 works fine and a midi player works through the roland too. Just need the time to tinker and watch some YouTube videos I suppose. I haven’t worked out getting the sounds for each channel into the daw. Let alone drum kits.
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Knezzen
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Administrator 512 MB Posts: 608 Village idiot
Reply #143 on: October 31, 2022, 15:55
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Neal: I went with Cubase VST/24 4.1 on my 8600 in 7.6.1 and it works like a charm. Need to load up the system with some VSTi's now
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #144 on: October 31, 2022, 21:14
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That version looks awesome. I don’t think they’ve improved much since then so it’s as good as you can get. I bet the 8600 flys on 7.6.1. What are you connect it through, sound card or sound module or both. I noticed you had a bunch of stuff on your ST midi. I need a good clear day to have a play as i’m new to DAW. Something i’ve always wanted to try and make some dance music.
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Knezzen
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Administrator 512 MB Posts: 608 Village idiot
Reply #145 on: October 31, 2022, 21:51
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Just an M-Audio MIDI keyboard and some VSTi's in Cubase. I have all my external MIDI gear in the studio and the 8600 is at home. It's more about tinkering and trying out new ideas than actually doing a whole production. At least on this machine.
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #146 on: November 01, 2022, 08:43
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Nice job though. Kind of same really, just tinker and play around with it. Hopefully get time later this week.
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #147 on: November 01, 2022, 09:01
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Aren't you supposed to be on vacation, Neal? Wife keeping you busy? :-) Playing with various Quicktime versions, especially 4 and 5. Also trying to find ways to use Quicktime Pro to easily add subtitles to Quicktime movies.
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Knezzen
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Administrator 512 MB Posts: 608 Village idiot
Reply #148 on: November 01, 2022, 10:11
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Setting up an new Hotline server software and moving all the System 7 Hotline server stuff to it. Me and Bolkonskij hang out at the Hotline server everyday. Join us at hotline.system7today.com with your favorite client
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #149 on: November 02, 2022, 22:55
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I’m back now but have a lot if holiday to take so with the wife at work i can actually get some zippy tinkering done. Start my website, go on that new irc chat do da. Yes happy days ahead
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