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Bolkonskij
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on: January 23, 2024, 12:15
Well, this is a bit ahead in time (depending on where you live ) but it was 40 years ago on January 24th, 1984 that Steve Jobs unveiled the Macintosh (Mac 128k) to the world. In a way, it's the birthday of the Macintosh, isn't it? And boy, what a journey it has been !I can definitely say it had a huge impact on my life and I'm very happy and thankful to all the folks involved. They've done an amazing job. If you'd like to see his Steveness presenting the Mac on Jan 24th, 1984, here's the video: -> Youtube version -> Quicktime version What I found interesting is to look at how people around the time in 1984 viewed the Mac. There were quite some naysayers on Usenet and few enthusiastic voices prior to release. I found this original January 1984 post from an individual named "Chuck" interesting: Quote from: Chuck from Usenet This week's issue of Electronic Engineering Times has a small (1.5"x2") picture, on the front page, which is supposed to be of the Mac. Also the same rag has a large (~9" x 9") artist cutaway drawing of the "Mac". Showing that it has a relatively small (~10" x 10") base and stands approximately 14 inches tall. There is a detached keyboard, using a telephone style cable connection to the front of the case. And user Mike (Tom Tom? :-D) added in: Quote I saw the sales brochure that will be on dealer floors on Tuesday or Wednesday. To add to what Chuck said, the screen is about 512 x 350 (or so) bit mapped. So it was really quite the uphill battle from the beginning. Still, the Mac overcame those problems. Anyone of you with personal memories to share? wove, you've been around then following the release? Any thoughts / birthday wishes you guys would like to share?
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Last Edit: January 23, 2024, 14:09 by Bolkonskij
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wove
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Reply #1 on: January 23, 2024, 13:32
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At the time of the Mac release I was living in a very rural area. I was using a Commodore 8032 and as far as I knew I was the only person around that had a Personal Computer. I got newspapers and read magazines at the library. My recollection is that the release of the Mac went right on by me without me taking any notice at all. As time passed more appeared about the Mac and overall it did not pique my interest. The big reason for me was that it did not come with built in BASIC or any language and I had no idea how I could run any of the applications I had for it. Most computers at the time had a built in language and most users’ applications came either from their own efforts, or typing in applications found in books and magazines. So anyway the big downside for me was that not only was the Mac very expensive, but you would also need to spend even more to get usable software, and software that was not tailored to you specifically. A couple years after the release of the Mac the town built a new library. When it opened it was running on Mac computers. LocalTalk network machines. The software was HyperCard based, with a stack for patrons, a stack for books, a stack for checked out and a stack for in stock. New cards were issued that had barcodes, and all the books had bar codes attached. Most useful and seamless automation I had ever seen. It was the slickest thing I had ever seen and it was the first time I saw the Mac as a very powerful platform surpassing my Commodore although I was still upset about the lack of a built in BASIC. So I started saving up my money to get a Mac. I think it was around 1987 that I finally got a used one and got hooked on them. Sa anyway Happy Birthday Mac.
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Lichen Software
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Reply #2 on: January 24, 2024, 21:49
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A year prior to the Mac being introduced, I started a small (1 man) real estate brokerage and appraisal shop in a small Northern Ontario town. I did everything myself and the market was so small I did not think that was going to change. I used a portable typewriter and multiple carbons to do my work. There was a dial phone. I took photos with a poloroid camera or on larger assignments a 35 millimeter and waited for film developing. A year in, March 1984, I was up in Timmins and there was an Apple dealer in the Timmins Square mall and I saw my first McIntosh. I had been looking for something I could use for small business functions that did not have a horrendous learing curve. I was busy enough just doing business. I called my wife and told her I thought I had found something, but it was about $3,500. She asked "Will it do the job?". I told her I thought so and she told me to buy it. 128k Mac Imagewriter printer Keyboard Numeric key pad Mouse 2nd disk drive For reference, this was before I could buy a small photocopier. It was several years later that Radioshack offered the first fax machine I saw below $1000.00 ($999.99). I bought that. Prior, I had people accepting offers on properties by telegraph. That Mac eventually got bumped to 512k. I had a Thunderscan scanner that hooked into the printer ribbon socket of the Imagewriter. It ran pretty much trouble free right up to about 1991 or 1992 when I bought an LC II. It took awhile to get software as it was pretty expensive, but it allowed a single guy on the ground to put out an acceptible product, mainly appraisals, without hiring help. After that period, I went through a litany of machines and equipment LC II Duo and docking system PB 1400 Starmax 7100 A used IICi Performa Beige G3 Scanner, magnetic-optical drives, zip, jazz drives, modems, laser and inkjet printers .... But, that machine was the start and as feeble as it was, I am grateful to this day. Damn I am old.
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cballero
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Reply #3 on: January 25, 2024, 02:52
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What an amazing run, Lichen SW! ![]() I used a IIci at work, owned a PB 1400c and Duo 2300c, a couple of Performas and currently have a Beige G3 like yours networked with Win 10 DT and it's a beautiful mix of new and old! I guess I just got stuck in Mac OS 9 and I'm totally okay with it! ![]() Of course, I also love everything I'm able to do with my emu 68k Mac like 68040 does
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lauland
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Reply #4 on: January 25, 2024, 17:29
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I'll just cover my introduction to Mac and early years... The first time I'd ever seen a "screen/energy saver" was on a Lisa. I was at a dealership, touched the mouse on a machine I thought was off, and was shocked when it suddenly came to life! The first Macs I used were at College. The dorm had a lab full of SE's with a single SE/30. Most didn't know the difference, but I'd be sure to jump on it when it was free! I found dragging the disk to the trash to eject very strange! I had an Amiga in my dorm room that I'd learned m68k on, which was a HUGE advantage in the assembly language course, where I met and fell in love with Macsbug. The A5/A6 world was confusing! (Straight A's). I part time ran a network for the athletics department, where I encountered my first Mac II models. I'd never seen soft power me, and I couldn't figure out how to turn them on! One coach had an actual Apple 5.25in floppy drive on their Mac so they could "read PC disks", which was always a pain. Later I took a job supporting a research lab, where the leader (of course) had the fastest machine, a IIfx(!), which he stood on it's side, I was always afraid it'd fall over! I had an SE/30 to take from place to place, in a very large "backpack". I still remember climbing stairs wearing that thing!
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Lichen Software
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Reply #5 on: January 26, 2024, 02:59
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Cballero, I still have a pile of the old machines.That ia the joy and the curse of having worked for yourself from 1983 through to 2019. beige G3 with upgraded processor 7100 with acellerator and larger hard drive ... It has issues ... I will work on that one. AGP graphics I tried to have it brought back but it seems pretty much gone. 3x PB1400's. One needs a hard drive and one needs a screen ribbon. Into the osX era 12" G4 Powerbook .... needs either mother voard or someone to put in a new PRAM capacitor on board. 13" Mac Book Pro, late 2010 ... my newest machine. Aside from some web sites & video, I would be quite happy on my favourite PB1400 once I get the acreen fixed. it has an accellerator, maxed memory, wifi card and a compact flash for a second drive. Between 7.6 for things that will run quickly and 8.6 for better browsing, I would not be missing much.
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ovalking
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Reply #6 on: January 27, 2024, 20:16
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>January 24th, 1984 I was still at school at the time. My computing experience then was limited to the BBC Micro. I borrowed one from a relative to help my course work. You were seriously disadvantaged without access to a machine... I'd heard of Apple, but that was the extent of my knowledge. Around this time I was probably writing off letters for jobs. I had no idea what I wanted to do, and count myself lucky to get the job I did...3 years later I encountered the Mac Plus....and I'm still with the same company!
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cballero
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Reply #7 on: January 28, 2024, 00:15
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@OvalKing: Wow, same company! That's real staying power, and a good company/employee! ![]() @Lichen Software: Let's see, my booting/working Macs right now are a Performa 6360 (it does need a working HD), my Beige G3, Comet 2400c, Pismo and a Mac Mini that also needs a HD (well had two, but I gave a newer one to my dad), oh, and a 12" 2015 MacBook (I want to restore the drive I mistakenly wiped, so it's sitting waiting for me to figure out the best way to get that done that, lol), the rest are all in states of disrepair in my closet, a few other PPC Classic PowerBooks and one or two iMacs (my Achilles' heel is not being too hands-on on the hardware side!) oh, and a second 6360 for it's much nicer shell and Ethernet adapter I added and swapped with my working Performa
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Bolkonskij
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Reply #8 on: January 28, 2024, 17:55
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Quote from: ovalking .and I'm still with the same company!Wow! That's a rare thing these days. Printer at Fleet Street? ![]() @all - thanks for your personal stories, I *love* reading them. Here's some more users writing about the Mac from the time of the 128k's release! Quote from: Len Armstrong, Jan. 25th 1984 Well, after months and months of waiting I finally got a glimpse of the MACINTOSH. While I was extremely impressed with what it could do, I was also dissappointed by what it couldn't do. Quote from: Bill Catchings, Jan 27th 1984 I just got back from a seminar in (sunny) Ft. Lauderdale at which the VP of Sales and Marketing from Apple spoke. (Curiously enough he was the coach of the Columbia University football team about five years ago, makes you wonder about a lot of things.) Quote from: Ben Priest, AT&T Bell Labs, Jan. 27th 1984 The Mac is just what the doctor ordered for millions of would-be computer users. Apple has really got its act together on this one. I find it very interesting on what these people saw and put an emphasis on! :-) (you can network for only 25$!)
Last Edit: January 28, 2024, 17:58 by Bolkonskij
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Bolkonskij
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Reply #9 on: February 05, 2024, 17:23
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Are these ancient posts interesting to anyone but me? :-) Quote from: Mort Dubman During the development of the Macintosh I was in contact (through a friend) with some people at Apple, and I have been long awaiting its arrival. I fooled around with this amazing machine-on-two-boards in a local computer store and it blew me away. A man with a little kid came into the store, Quote from: Mort Dubman Mac documentation is excellent. I glanced through the manuals and they've got something for everyone, hackers included. Some are very elementary, but a bunch give good inside data (more of which is to come). One of the great things about Mac is that, from a users standpoint, you don't have to read a single word to operate it. My friend told me to "click the mouse button twice" and from there on I was home free. Quote from: Larry Campbell, Feb. 2nd 1984 I went to the big splash the Boston Computer Society put on Monday night. Jobs, Wozniak, and about nine of Mac's developers were on hand; they put on a *really slick* multimedia show that was quite fun. Before the main session there were handson tutorials; I got about twenty Quote from: John Crane, Feb. 2nd 1984 You probably won't hear this from anybody else, so I think it's time somebody played the devil's advocate with respect to the MacIntosh.
Last Edit: February 05, 2024, 17:30 by Bolkonskij
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wove
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Reply #10 on: February 06, 2024, 14:00
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I enjoyed reading the comments from John Crane made in February ’84. That was something a few people were concerned about. “What is bad about learning commands?” It was something held against the Mac for a good long time. For many DOS users the Mac was considered little more a than a toy. To get something done one should really understand what needs to be done, why it needs to be done, and how it is getting done. The other day I was reading a blog where the author was rambling about “smart watches”. He mentioned the sleep tracking function and wondered if we as humans had lost so much self awareness that we had to resort to looking at a device to know if we had a good night’s sleep. And certainly that is a direction of point click, everything can be done in an app, was really pioneered with the Mac.
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Bolkonskij
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Reply #11 on: February 08, 2024, 17:19
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Indeed! There was a perception about what a computer user would have to do and a way a computer has to work. That's why the Macintosh was so revolutionary. As you read, it didn't make everyone fall in love with it. Far from it! A lot of people challenged Apple's ideas. Here's another follow up posted and dated February 7th, 1984 by Richard Kinch: Quote from: Richard Kinch Peripherals on a serial comm port have to cost more than those on an parallel synchronous (synchronous in the sense of working within processor cycles) bus. He makes a few points one may or may not agree with (peripherals, authorized dealerships etc.) but the paragraphs where he rants about the Macintosh Finder and icons clearly show he didn't grasp the concept and the power behind it. It's somewhat funny to think about it today where every child understands the concept just from watching their parents work, but if one keeps in mind the state of computing in 1984, this was a rather alien thing, challenging the status quo and know-how most users had acquired. Hence why the Macintosh was truly revolutionary (for the mass market)
Last Edit: February 09, 2024, 13:22 by Bolkonskij
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68040
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Reply #12 on: February 08, 2024, 18:40
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Quote I don't know what the "Macintosh Finder" is, but there must be substantial interplay of textual directives and icon-pointing directives. Icons are a means to implement menus, and menus have this shortcoming. The theory here is that if the task is simple the user-interface can be too; but if the task is complex and requires discretion, detail, and finesse, a menu is unsuitable (even if implemented in pictures). When I was a young kid I often wondered why these so called "tech journalists" get paid good money to write such complete bullocks. Well, truth be told, most of them don't earn their money from sales revenue buy from advertising. So, its the corporations that pay for the fancy, schmancy in-betweens that most of us prefer so skip over who finance these self-anointed "experts". The fact that he didn't grasp the revolutionary impact of a Graphical User Interface and instead saw it only as a source of show stopping bugs, that he made judgement calls about a whole new class of systems by assuming their performance based on a predecessor system from the same company, shows that he had no concept of how tech-revolutions happen in the computer industry. Yet too many readers (still) take the words of the likes of him as gospel. And that is how revolutions manage to surprise us over and over again. That article was written by a command line guy, who probably already reached his intellectual limit with command.com. And I am sure he got well paid for it. ![]() I must have been around 21 when I saw my first Amiga and the moment I laid eyes on its graphical Workbench my mind exploded with the potential that was behind it. From that very second on I never wanted to return back to "command line only" computing - and issues like "software bugs" wouldn't even have fazed me if they'd been crawling all over the box. I spend all the money from my first big job, plus borrowed some from my mom, to buy me one of those machines: An A1000 Then came the A2000 and so on. I pity the fool who saw his first graphical Desktop and all he could think about was: "How is one supposed to earn $$$ with that?"
Last Edit: February 08, 2024, 19:00 by 68040
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wove
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Reply #13 on: February 08, 2024, 19:49
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A great many people did not get it. Heck even Xerox who developed the GUI computer concept had no idea about the potential they had uncovered.
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68040
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512 MB ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #14 on: February 08, 2024, 21:36
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Oh yeah, I remember reading that Steve Jobs openly admitted that he got his idea for a GUI desktop from a visit to the Xerox labs. Imagine our world w/o geniuses like him. Dreadful!
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) but it was 40 years ago on January 24th, 1984 that Steve Jobs unveiled the Macintosh (Mac 128k) to the world. In a way, it's the birthday of the Macintosh, isn't it? And boy, what a journey it has been !

