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Knezzen
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Reply #45 on: March 05, 2023, 21:13
I see you haven't really read up on Crypto Ancienne and you missed my point, so I'll stop discussing this now as it feels like I'm talking to a wall. I wish you all the best in your search and I hope that you find what you're looking for. |
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68040
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512 MB  Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #46 on: March 05, 2023, 22:15
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I read the whole darn Read Me file: Quote The use of this library does not make your application cryptographically secure, and certain systems may entirely lack any technological means to make that possible. Its functionality and security should be regarded as, at best, "good enough to shoot yourself in the foot with." Quote Some systems may be too slow for present-day server expectations and thus will appear not to function even if the library otherwise works correctly. In our testing this starts to become a problem for CPUs slower than 40MHz or so, regardless of architecture. Even built with -O3, our little NetBSD Macintosh IIci with a 25MHz 68030 and no L2 card took 22 seconds (give carl the -t option to disable timeouts) for a single short TLS 1.2 transaction to a local test server; a number of Internet hosts we tested it with simply cut the connection instead of waiting. Please don't be patronizing when talking tech with me. I carry 40 years IT experience on my aching back - and I am one of them guys who *always* reads the manual. Even a badly written one (not that I'd accuse Crypto Ancienne of that). So I know when something is meant to be usable for office hours and when other stuff is only valid for "fiddling around with". Crypto Ancienne is - by its own admission - not fit for working hours. That doesn't say its badly written or not worth your effort, if you're the kind of guy who prides himself on getting Windows Enterprise Server to run on your Smartphone. I always admired those over-geeks with their Youtube Videos - and got scared by them at the same time. But I am looking for something I can use for work and STunnel is production ready. That's not a requirement for everyone, but I stated over and over again that it is for me!
Last Edit: March 05, 2023, 22:46 by 68040
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1179 System 7, today and forever
Reply #47 on: March 06, 2023, 02:06
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I admire your commitment to quality, 68040, I do. Remember, we all have different expectations of the hardware and software that we use, which is perfectly fine, too. When we use it, we have certain goals, just remember that not all of us are rowing the same boat. I made the point that of the two solutions, one meets your criteria and the other does not, and even that is fine, too. I like the fact that we can use something that while it may never be production-ready, it can still serve in some capacity (unless the two cancel each other out and it's a 'one-or-the-other' situation). The more we can expand the 68k universe, the better, which is why I ask you so much about it. All I see in our forums are brilliant minds, so I thank you all for enlightening me on this subject, so the last thing I want to see is friendly fire between Mac fellows. I love a good debate as much as anyone else, but I also enjoy celebrating the victories we achieve as well. In a perfect world, everything just works, but sadly in the real world, there will always be issues to deal with, even for our awesome Classic Mac OS. I'm happy you all put-up with my lack of knowledge in our common subject matter, but I can have a few moments of brilliance, so I'm glad to put some positive input whenever I can, not perfect of course. I call our humanity 'perfecty imperfect' and I wouldn't change much  except for a few bumpy moments between friends 
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #48 on: March 06, 2023, 02:13
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Case in point: I just rewrote my resume in Word 6, which was quite a feat given that MacWord works stable only as long as no other program is running alongside it. Why that exercise? Because I am not using Windoze as my operating system and there is no Word version available for Debian ARM. Only Libre- and OpenOffice and even so PD enthusiasts will throw a hissy fit if you dare to point out the many shortcomings of these freeware juggernauts, I got plenty of reasons to doubt their accuracy when it comes to dealing with MS-Office files. Not the least because recruiters and agents kept questioning the layout of a document that seemed to look just fine on my end. So here I went with my totally reformatted CV and downloaded myself MS-Office for Android. Viola, my MacWord file looked absoluty the same in the latest Microsoft Office app than it does in my MacOS Word version. But as soon as I loaded it into LibreOffice, I saw that all formatting was off and wherever I had used a special character (like a bullet point) only gibberish showed up. That happened regardless of whether I imported the file in DOC, RTF or CWD format. That proves that LO does not display Word files in an authentic manner and that I used a vintage file format to prove it doesn't alter that point. Because if MS-Word of 2023 displays it correctly then LibreOffice of 2023 should do it, too. This suggests that the times people hinted that my resume looked "odd" on their end were caused indeed by LibreOffice messing things up when saving in DOC(X) format. Unfortunately MicroSoft has removed the ability to edit files in their Android app, lest you sign up for an account with them. So now I have the choice to either switch to Wintel or write my business documents with MacWord from here on out. LibreOffice for me is not production ready and will therefore take a back seat even to vintage 68k. And yes, the LO-fanboys probably number in the tens of thousands, but that doesn't change the fact that Microsoft Office is the standard my documents have to live up to. I view an SSL library in exactly the same way: Me using it has to be totally transparent to the other side. And a server timing out during the negotiation phase is not "transparent" - quite the opposite. Its bound to make an observant network administrator question: "Wtf is this dude using, when he tries to connect to my network?"
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1179 System 7, today and forever
Reply #49 on: March 06, 2023, 05:39
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Lol, I see that  I've been using OnlyOffice for this chore on my modern OSes since it's a free-to-use option for Linux, macOS and Windoze.. somehow their Android app didn't perform as nicely as their desktop version did. I might suggest looking at and test-driving their Linux version? Here is their description page leading to all of their download versions: https://www.onlyoffice.com/desktop.aspx (modern browser needed) Their sole competitive angle is that their document format is MS, which in their freeware position is awesome, backed by their pay-to-use cloud integration, but all of that is completely optional!  So far, they've impressed me as a fan of their cost-free yet MS-compatible alternative.
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #50 on: March 06, 2023, 10:41
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I probably already lost a couple of bids because of this MS document mess and so I guess I'm done experimenting around here. And I only used the MS Android app because its the only Microsoft Word version available for my platform. Other than that I intensely dislike doing serious work with Android apps. Its a nice enough platform for multimedia, graphics or gaming. But the rudimentary UIs, the cumbersome data exchange between apps and - worst of all - the nagging insistence of the OS watchdog to kill any app it finds takes up too many resources, makes working with Android a pain in the rear. At least for me.
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