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Syntho
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on: December 25, 2021, 22:15
I want to keep my data safe but I don't want to have to manually update everything I change. My idea is to use my NAS (Synology) in conjunction with some kind of backup software that will automatically make a copy of new files, and update existing files as you save them (with different, older versions archives if possible), all onto a drive of your choice. I think software like this exists, but the dilemma is that if I'm using a NAS, I think I would have to go to the chooser and log in before the software could successfully move/update anything. Unless I make it automatically log in upon every startup, which I usually don't do. Which software would be good for this? |
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB  Posts: 2023
Reply #1 on: December 26, 2021, 13:10
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When you wrote "automatically" Syntho - do you mean like auto-syncing in real-time or rather "auotmatically make a backup every second tuesday" ?
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Syntho
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64 MB Posts: 103 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #2 on: December 27, 2021, 03:23
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Once every while, whatever you set it to. I doubt it could update in real time very effectively.
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #3 on: December 27, 2021, 09:25
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Well, technically it shouldn't be impossible. But I figure it'd be a drag on the system resources for running that service in the background all the time, ready to kick in when something needs sync'ed. I did ask, because someone asked for a real-time sync backup app somewhere a few weeks ago. So I wasn't sure if you're looking for the same. I see two things here - first is to get your NAS to be instantly recognized on startup without the tedious task of having to go to the Chooser and mounting it manually. The second one is to have an actual backup software kicking in and transferring the files to the NAS. The first one I'd tackle with a tip from our Aliases article. Quote Make an alias of a shared folder from another Mac or a file server after you mounted it. Double-clicking the alias will automatically mount the server or folder in the future; if a password is required, the AppleShare log-on dialog box will appear. Very neat if you want to automatically mount e.g. a shared folder when starting up your Mac. Put that alias into your System -> Startup folder. Report back if that automatically mounts it upon starting the 9600 as intended :-) (I haven't tried something like that myself ...) As for backup software, we have to wait for the recommendation of others :-) I just copy my 8600's HD over to the MDD via network. I know that Dantz's Retrospect was considered the best backup utility by many during the 90's. I have no experience with it of my own though. Why don't you give it a try and let us know how it works? I'd be interested to know!
Last Edit: December 30, 2021, 13:21 by Bolkonskij
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Syntho
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64 MB Posts: 103 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #4 on: December 29, 2021, 22:27
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Been busy, but got around to testing. There is some software on the Garden called "Personal Backup" that works fine. Lighter than Retrospect. As it turns out, when I connect to the server, make an alias of it, then later on come back and double click the alias (after restarting or something), the alias won't launch my NAS drive since the volume itself has to be mounted for the alias to work. I went into the chooser (my usual way of launching my NAS) and once I get to the part that I'm logging in, there is a checkbox for something like "launch network folder upon startup". I ticked that for my NAS drive, but it gives me a message saying something like "cannot launch this type of folder upon startup" or something like that. The above probably just doesn't work in System 7. I know for sure it works in OS9 because it used to p!ss me off that it kept making me log in upon every startup. I think I should just manually back up (with Personal Backup or Retrospect) instead of wanting everything automated. The more I try to hack these old Macs, the more frustration there is.
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #5 on: December 31, 2021, 15:23
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Syntho, thanks for reporting back. Actually the alias should handle the auto-mount part. I don't know why it doesn't do it on your 9600. I need to investigate myself. I think your endeavor is a realistic one to automate. I'll put it on my to-do to figure out, because figuring out this kind of stuff is half the fun of using System 7 :-)
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Syntho
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64 MB Posts: 103 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #6 on: January 02, 2022, 23:40
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I'm wondering if it won't work because I'm using an older version of... I forget what the software is called, but it might be just Appleshare. I remember having to upgrade in order for the Chooser to let me connect to my NAS, and I probably didn't get the latest version. I bet if I upgraded that it would work fine. After consideration though, I think it would be better if I just backup stuff manually. What I really need to look into is the autosave features in all my software. If I have it save once every 10 minutes, plus do a manual backup (using Personal Backup or Retrospect), I'd cover myself pretty well.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #7 on: January 03, 2022, 00:14
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This reminded me of a couple of things I used to use: Goliath, a WebDav client I used on PPC Macs, which ran under OS 8.1 and higher  but that was for online use.The other was sharing a DropBox folder on Tiger when it was still compatible with PPC Macs and sharing it with my PPC Powerbooks for a neat little hack to save mostly .bin and .sit uploads of Mac apps as well as media docs and regular .pdf and other office docs. I think I jimmied it so that it would auto-mount as a shared folder then updated files would be copied over, with Personal Backup I think, and they would automatically be shared and backup-up to newer computers, even PCs!
Last Edit: January 03, 2022, 00:18 by cballero
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