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Reply #15 on: September 05, 2007, 01:52

You have come a long way with your Performa, learn new things and it is now working and connected to the net. I  say well done and enjoy using it!

Download some nice freeware for it, and make things happen.

Cheers!
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Reply #16 on: September 06, 2007, 00:07

The thing I like most about it is that it's a lot like the first computer I ever remember using... our school had Power Macintosh 5260's around '96 and it was fun. So this brings back memories and it's just plain fun... although my parent's think I'm a tad crazy for using this over the brand new iMac! :-D
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Reply #17 on: September 08, 2007, 15:37

It is good to hear that you are getting things working with a direct connection to the modem.

I have one last thought on this matter. The modem would no doubt be a 10t ethernet device since that would cover all the data made available on a typical home internet connection.

It may be that the router is a combination 10t/100t router and is having trouble identifying the speed at which your ethernet card is working. Most routers that handle several speeds/protocols automatically switch to the correct speed, but in this case that might not be happening.

I am not sure if there would be a solution to this problem, but you could look through the Asante site for information. Perhaps even an email to their support staff could provide some insight. In any event make sure you have the latest drivers for the card. If it is currently being handled by built in Apple networking software, it might be worthwhile to see if Asante has specifice drivers for this card.

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Reply #18 on: September 09, 2007, 05:16

Well I'm not exactly sure what model I'm using... I only know it's an Asante from what the ebay auction said when I bought it. But when I try to download the asante driver off the help section it tells me I need stuffit expander deluxe or disk copy 4... which doesn't work... I looked on the Asante site but all their drivers are too old.
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Reply #19 on: September 09, 2007, 16:19

Here is the Asante Ethertalk Driver. This includes support for many of the Asante cards including their ComSlot cards.

bill

This is an edit to add an a direct link for the Driver direct from Asante.

bill
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Reply #20 on: September 14, 2007, 01:11

Well I got the driver downloaded... but it opens in a diskcopy image... am I actually supposed to make a floppy? or should it be able to open?
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Reply #21 on: September 14, 2007, 01:23

Disk Copy 6 should open it as-is...
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Reply #22 on: September 14, 2007, 03:13

Okay... got it to install, still not working... and now it hangs at startup and shutdown at the desktop without icons,menus, or the decor background for about 2 minutes... longer if I have At Ease active, and the last time I shut down I got a type 11 error.
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Reply #23 on: September 14, 2007, 04:17

Well its probably not talking to your router very well.
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Reply #24 on: September 19, 2007, 00:41

Well actually it's not talking to the router at all, but so far no luck... I did notice now when it's connected right to the modem it it has a very low I.P. adress, not the 192.169.1.1, it's around 70.169.1.1. I don't know if that makes a difference.
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Reply #25 on: September 19, 2007, 07:13

Wow!   Five pages of replies to this query, and no one has yet mentioned the fact that Asante PDS Ethernet Cards will not connect to an auto-sensing 10/100 or 10/100/1000 switch.   You will never get your Asante ethernet card to work directly with your router.   What you have to do is get a cheap 10base-T hub to place between your router and your Performa.   That will cure what ails.
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Reply #26 on: September 19, 2007, 17:30

Quote from: "helloimjoe"
Well actually it's not talking to the router at all, but so far no luck... I did notice now when it's connected right to the modem it it has a very low I.P. adress, not the 192.169.1.1, it's around 70.169.1.1. I don't know if that makes a difference.


The different IP addresses are to be expected.   When you connect a device to the LAN side of your router, it is on a different network than the WAN side of your router.   That's what your router does.   It is a bridge between two separate networks  -- The Network of your Internet Service Provider, and your Local Area Network.

When you connect your Macintosh to the modem directly, you get the IP address 70.169.1.1 because that is the address your ISP is assigning to you.   When you connect your router directly to the modem, your router will be assigned that address -- or one similar.

Anyway, the reason why your Mac will connect to the modem, but not the router, is that the modem has a fixed 10Mbit Ethernet port.   Your Asante card has no trouble establishing a link with your modem because it finds what it's looking for right away -- a 10Mbit link.

When you connect your Asante Ethernet card to the router, the router will attempt to negotiate the speed, duplex, etcetera.   The Asante card has no idea what the router is trying to do, so it just gives up.  

You can remedy the situation a couple of ways.   If you have a good router that will let you fix a port at 10Mbit, you will be able to use your Asante card with the router.   It's unlikely that you would have such a router though, as it's usually the more expensive routers that offer these features.

Another option is to invest in a cheap 10base-T hub to act as a bridge between your Asante Card and your router.   The hub will negotiate with the router on the uplink port.   You can then connect your Mac to one of the ports on the hub...  And because it's a simple 10Mbit hub, your Asante card will find exactly what it's looking for.
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Reply #27 on: September 20, 2007, 03:20

So is something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Compaq-Netelligent-1009-ports-10Base-T/dp/B0009LT48E/ref=sr_1_7/002-7647411-6581632?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1190251159&sr=1-7
what your thinking of?
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Reply #28 on: September 20, 2007, 15:37

That would work.   You wouldn't need nine ports though.   And you could probably find one a bit cheaper than $9.   But yeah, that's exactly what you would need.

Get an old 10Mbit hub and connect it to the uplink port of your router (or connect the uplink port of the hub to any port of your router) and then plug your Asante Ethernet card into the hub.   That will solve your problem.
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Reply #29 on: September 20, 2007, 21:14

Great, you found the solution!
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