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Hardware / Color Classic Dilemma
October 20, 2011, 14:49 |
No and a solid state drive would be overkill space/cost wise. however I did put a 4GB CF card in my old Amiga using a custom IDE adapter, and that was pretty much the same as having an SSD drive. Very fast boot up 
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Operating System / 7.5.3 Installation Failed
October 20, 2011, 14:48 |
Thanks Bill, that makes a lot of sense. I will look for Disk Copy. |
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Operating System / 7.5.3 Installation Failed
October 20, 2011, 10:57 |
OK thanks. So basically there's no way to move an installer that works to the HD/CD? That makes quite a few things I've downloaded useless as it seems unless you 'burn' an original disk image to a disk, it doesn't accept a disk that just has the same name anyway. So I'm slightly puzzled as to why people upload app files if they're no use! |
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Operating System / 7.5.3 Installation Failed
October 19, 2011, 14:58 |
I'm still very confused by the way System 7 handles moving/coyping files. Please can someone explain it to me? For example, sometimes if I move an item from a floppy disk to my desktop (meaning I obviously want to copy it to the desktop) it moves it from the disk, yet is still on the disk as if I eject it, the file disappears. And also quite a few installers I've found ask me to insert disks during installation even though I have all the files on a CD/folder. |
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Operating System / 7.5.3 Installation Failed
October 18, 2011, 20:31 |
Never mind - second time lucky. Looks like the floppy I used originally had bad sectors, the second attempt on a new disk booted fine. 7.5.3 went on flawlessly (and quickly) at the second attempt. I'm impressed at how quick 7.5.3 is compared to 7.1, it seems much faster! And looks significantly more modern too. |
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Operating System / 7.5.3 Installation Failed
October 18, 2011, 10:44 |
By the way, my Color Classic has 10mb RAM so from what I've read should handle 7.5.3 just fine. So I'm stumped as to why the installation falied in the first place. |
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Operating System / 7.5.3 Installation Failed
October 18, 2011, 10:42 |
As you may have seen in the hardware forum, I got myself a Color Classic running 7.1, and found it a real nightmare to hook up my CD Drive as the system folder was a mess (previous owner.) I finally managed to get the CD extension working, so the first thing I wanted to do was a clean install of 7.5.3. I downloaded the files from Apple, made sure there was plenty of free disk space (80mb HD) and then started the clean installation. It stalled on "copying fonts to fonts folder" for over an hour, so I gave up and powered off. I realiase this is a No No with any OS installation, but it wouldn't cancel and had basically crashed. Anyway now I'm greeted with the flashing floppy on boot. I tried to make a boot disk on OS X using terminal (both network floppy and disktools) and it won't read either of them. The disks I made seem fine to me - they show up as Mac OS Standard in Disk Utility, and have the correct files on them. I made them from image files. So now I'm stuck. I'm hoping I can somehow boot the machine, and then simply rename my old system folder and delete the half installed new one. Will this work? And how can I get to this stage if my floppies aren't working? Is there a bootable 7.5.3 CD image anywhere? Any help appreciated, as I currently have a 'bricked' Color Classic 
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Hardware / Color Classic Dilemma
October 17, 2011, 22:48 |
Finally, got it working! It turns out that my 7.2 install seems rather messed up. I found my Extensions, Preferences etc folder inside the Microsoft Word Folder. So it looks like whoever owned this before accidentally moved a load of stuff around. Think I should do a clean install now. Will me Color Classic (10mb RAM) handle 7.5.3 and still be able to play games? |
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Hardware / Color Classic Dilemma
October 17, 2011, 20:56 |
OK 2 hours down and I'm completely stuck. There's so many things that 'could' explain it not working, I'm not sure where to start! 1) When simply trying to copy the CD Rom installer from the floppy to the Mac, it was behaving weirdly. Copying the file to the HD just seemed to create a short cut to it - but then if I deleted the alias, it deleted the file off the floppy too! How on earth do you move.copy files in System 7? 2) I did eventually manage to get the file on the computer (I think) It said to copy the file (extension) to my Extensions folder - but there was no extensions folder in System. Should there be? I created one and put the file in there. No idea wether it is picking it up or not - aren't extensions supposed to appear in the bottom left corner when you boot? It still only shows the same 2 as before (no idea what they are.) 3) The CD Rom definitely does something when I restart the Mac, the light flashes duting boot up. But no disc mounts in the finder. 4) I burned the files on to a CD-R using Toast 10, HFS format. Burn speed of x4. Should be OK right? 5) The external CD Rom itself (Lacie) has all kinds of things on the back - 2 SCSI ports, termination on/off, and a slider from 1 to 6. No idea what any of it does, again could the combination of buttons/ports be the problem? Anybody know what could be up? |
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Hardware / Color Classic Dilemma
October 17, 2011, 12:59 |
Update. I have managed to acquirea SCSI CD Rom drive from a friend So my next question is, will the driver from thwe top of this page work on 7.1?http://www.macdrivermuseum.net/disk.html Hopefully then all I'll need to do is figure out how to burn HFS CDs on OS X Lion. |
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Hardware / Color Classic Dilemma
October 17, 2011, 10:37 |
Thanks for all the info. To answer some of your questions: 1) My Color Classic has 10mb RAM. Would that still be too slow to run 7.5+? 2) I'm running 10.7 Leopard on my 'new' Mac. I've read that OS X can only read Mac Classic zip disks, and CANNOT write to them. Can anyone confirm? 3) I believe CDs need to be HFS formatted to be read in Classic. But all OS X sofwtware I've tried (Toast, Disk Utility) cannot do this format any more. I'm leaning towards the network card then. Assuming I buy that new one on ebay that comes with the software disk, should I just be able to plug the card in, install the software on the disk and then plug a modern ethernet cable into it, and it will work? Thanks. |
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Hardware / Color Classic Dilemma
October 14, 2011, 17:20 |
Thanks again. Wow this is proving way more difficult than I thought. It seems ZIPs are out as apparently OS X can't read/write Mac Classic formatted discs anyway. So even if I got the drive working on my Color Classic, I have no way of getting the files on to a disc! The ethernet/networking sounds quite painful. I'm not a networking guru by any means. So is maybe a SCSI CD Rom the best bet? Will that be plug and play on the Color Classic, or does that need drivers to read CDs too? |
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Hardware / Color Classic Dilemma
October 14, 2011, 16:47 |
Thanks for the reply. So if I put that in, could I just link my modern iMac (running OSW X 10.7) and the Color Classic with an Ethernet cable? |
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Hardware / Color Classic Dilemma
October 14, 2011, 16:14 |
Hi all, I've just acquired a 1993 Color Classic with the intention of playing some of my favourite old games on it. However I'm really struggling to get files on to it. It is running system 7.1. It has no ethernet or networking. The only thing I can attach is via the SCSI port on the back. I was thinking of getting a ZIP 100 drive, however according to Iomega's site only 7.6+ will read/write ZIP discs. Again, the samr dilemma - I can't access files to upgrade! So how can I get files on to this thing? I'm out of ideas! |
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