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Hardware / Powerful computing on a budget
March 06, 2011, 03:05 |
Well I'm now the proud owner of a 8100/100. I got it quite cheaply it from a local seller, and was pleased to find that it came with an Orange PC card as an added, unadvertised bonus. Unfortunately, I can't install the Sonnet G3 upgrade yet. The existing video card is taking up the slot and I don't have an HDi45 adapter, so I can't use the integrated graphics. Once I get that sorted, I'll be well on my way to a relatively powerful System 7 box. 
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New Member Welcome / Greetings from Chapel Hill, NC
March 02, 2011, 17:32 |
Thanks for the tip, but I'm afraid I won't be emulating for a couple reasons. There are no binaries for Debian, and that's all I run. I could compile from source, but that doesn't skirt the bigger problem: that SheepShaver *really* doesn't seem to play nice with PaX/grsecurity-hardened kernels. I'm not in any rush to start using System 7, so I suppose I can wait until I get my hands on some real hardware. Besides, it's just not the same without a tinny, muffled boot chime. 
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Hardware / Powerful computing on a budget
March 02, 2011, 16:28 |
Quote from: "Lichen Software" If you are going to go into this, you might want to think about it as a similar hobby to vintage cars or in this case, making hotrods out of vintage cars. You will spend a few bucks, but all the bucks you spend will be less than the cost of a single door for a 1940 Mercury. :-) And you wll get as many hours of enjoyment. Oh, absolutely. I already realize that (as far as productive computing is concerned) this is totally useless. That's why it's a hobby! I'm also coming from the world of vintage ThinkPad refurbishing, so I already am quite accustomed to everything that goes along with investing time and money into something several orders of magnitude less powerful than the average smartphone. Quote I am not sure if you will be able to access your NAS storage (someone could chime in here) . Even if you can, small hard drives were one of the big problems from day one with all of this vintage of machine. It speaks everything from SMB to AFP to FTP. I'm not sure if Mac OS 7.6.1 can do AFP over TCP/IP, but at the very least I have FTP support for archiving little-used programs and infrequently-accessed data. Quote I have one folder on my main Mac dedicated to Classic Software that I have found over the years. That folder is up to about 40 Gb now and still growing as I find things. Plan on upgrading the storage if economically feasible. You will enjoy the storage and the machine will run faster as the newer drives are better. 40 GB! Wow. I used to be a part of a Mac abandonware project, and even when I destroyed my copy of the archives when I left I don't think I had more than 15 GB or so of material -- and that was including uncompressed ISOs of quite a few discs... Quote 8.6 gets you Cassilla for web browsing. It is as modern as you can get for classic macs. I am still trying to get him to backport to 7.6 on another forum but apparently there is quite a bit involved. I don't plan on browsing at all, so not an issue. Quote 9.x gets you other things depending on what you are doing. I have nothad to go that far up yet for most things. I've got a Wallstreet PowerBook and a beige G3 in storage that can both run 8.x-9.x if needed, so this machine won't need to be capable of anything other than 7.x (As an aside, the G3 I have is one of the few that I've used that can boot Rhapsody and the OS X DPs without issue, so I intend to hang on to it for quite some time.) Thanks for some *great* info. I suppose I should start shopping...
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Software / Alternative Graphical Interface
March 02, 2011, 05:16 |
That would probably be "At Ease". |
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Hardware / Powerful computing on a budget
March 02, 2011, 04:41 |
Ah, sorry, I should have clarified: when I mentioned a G3 I was referring to a system that could be upgraded to one. Apart from that it seems like I should look for one of the non-NuBus desktops with an eye towards upgrading via an accelerator card, no? I'm not concerned about storage space -- I've got a NAS with tons of space, so really I only need the internal drive for booting and apps. Hopefully that should help cut down on the cost... (Thanks for a very informative reply, BTW.) |
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Hardware / Powerful computing on a budget
March 02, 2011, 03:34 |
I'm interested in getting a System 7-capable Mac. I'd like it to get a fairly high-end PowerPC machine (preferably a G3, but at least a 603e or better.) Now this being a less-than-100%-useful hobby, I've already resigned myself to burning a bit of money on this.  Still, I'd like to get the most bang for my buck -- so I'd like to get advice on what systems the folks here would recommend.Features I'm looking for: - upgradeable without spending a fortune - no major reliability issues - replacement parts are available (so no TAM) - can run Mac OS 7.6 or earlier (the more versions of System 7 it supports the better) Hopefully that narrows the range of machines a bit. If not... well... what machines do you guys like? Cheers, Rob |
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New Member Welcome / Greetings from Chapel Hill, NC
March 02, 2011, 03:11 |
Greetings. Although I currently have an all-Linux household (I converted from OS X in 2008), I'm interested in getting a couple hobby systems running System 7. My first machine ever was a Mac IIci running System 7.1 (later moving to 7.5.3, 7.6, and finally a Power Mac 7200 running OS 9) and although I eventually moved to the *nix world, I've recently become interested in re-living some of my vintage computing memories. At any rate, since I'm ready to start choosing hardware and getting back in to the (classic) Mac scene, I figured this forum would be a good place to start. |
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