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jmarran14221
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on: November 10, 2006, 04:18

HELP!!!  I have a Powermac 8500/120 upgraded to a G3/300 with a NewerTech card.  I have 336 MB of RAM.  I also have 2 HDD installed.  My main OS is 9.1.  Problem is...is that I downloaded 7.5.3 from Apple's website.  When I unzipped everything, I chose the Universal Installation for ANY Mac.  After installing, I chose the 7.5.3 disk with Startup Disk.  The Mac starts...and then I get a warning message stating that it is the "wrong startup disk".  What does this mean?  I am new to Mac, but it seems that a Universal Install would work on this machine.  What am I doing wrong?

HELP!!!
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Reply #1 on: November 10, 2006, 04:22

Did you install over your current installation, or did you choose to perform a clean install?

You should have been able to make a floppy disk called "Disk Tools" - use this to boot your computer.

Once you boot from the Disk Tools disk (whichever one of the two is appropriate for your system) you should initialize (format) your hard drive and then install a clean copy of the OS.

I'm not entirely familiar with the 7.5.x installer as 7.6 is entirely different (much easier).
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Reply #2 on: November 10, 2006, 04:34

After initialization, can I install 7 from within 9.1???
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Reply #3 on: November 10, 2006, 04:35

Quote from: "jmarran14221"
HELP!!!  I have a Powermac 8500/120 upgraded to a G3/300 with a NewerTech card.  I have 336 MB of RAM.  I also have 2 HDD installed.  My main OS is 9.1.  Problem is...is that I downloaded 7.5.3 from Apple's website.  When I unzipped everything, I chose the Universal Installation for ANY Mac.  After installing, I chose the 7.5.3 disk with Startup Disk.  The Mac starts...and then I get a warning message stating that it is the "wrong startup disk".  What does this mean?  I am new to Mac, but it seems that a Universal Install would work on this machine.  What am I doing wrong?

HELP!!!


Does the G3/300 upgrade card require any enabler to make the computer boot? Does the upgrade card support 7.5.3?

I gather that you installed 7.5.3 and the installer ran to a successful completion. If there is any special software in your primary OS folder (9.1) that relates to the upgrade card, I would move it the corresponding folders created by the 7.5.3 installer. You might want to reinstall the 120MHz card to see if the System boots and the 7.5.3 system is good.

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Reply #4 on: November 10, 2006, 04:49

You can find Newer Technology G3 upgrade drivers for System 7 at the Help Center.
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Reply #5 on: November 10, 2006, 19:28

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After initialization, can I install 7 from within 9.1???


Once you initialize, there will no longer be a 9.1 system installed.  You will have a blank hard drive then.  When you download 7.5.3, it comes as 19 floppy disks.  Make all 19 floppies (find all the floppies you can!)  Obviously, you'll want to do this either before you initialize your hard drive, or from some other Macintosh with a floppy drive.

There will be two disk tools floppies in that set.  Boot from the disk tools floppies to initialize (initializing is the Mac word for formatting) the hard drive.  Then boot from "Install Disk 1" and that will allow you to install a fresh OS onto your freshly formatted hard drive.  It's all graphical, unlike installing Windows.

To make the floppies you have to use the Apple Disk Copy utility, which you probably have, but if you don't you can download from this site.  That program will take the floppy disk images you download, and create bootable floppy replicas from them.
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Reply #6 on: November 10, 2006, 21:44

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I also have 2 HDD installed.  My main OS is 9.1.  Problem is...is that I downloaded 7.5.3 from Apple's website.  When I unzipped everything, I chose the Universal Installation for ANY Mac.  After installing, I chose the 7.5.3 disk with Startup Disk.  The Mac starts...and then I get a warning message stating that it is the "wrong startup disk".  What does this mean?

Just a quick question... what format did you use for the 7.5.3 disk?

Drive Setup with Mac OS 9 only warns people that Mac OS Extended requires a PowerPC system... it doesn't tell people that you must be using Mac OS 8.1 or later.

It sounds like you installed 7.5.3 on a HFS+ (Mac OS Extended) volume rather than an HFS (Mac OS Standard) formatted volume.

(http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/drive_setup/setup_03.jpg)
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Reply #7 on: November 10, 2006, 22:03

If he creates the actual floppies though from the disk images, and boot from those, he won't have to worry about what format it is since the Drive Setup program on those disks will only do HFS Standard.

The original poster only has to decide if he wants to devote his entire drive to Mac OS 7, or if he wants to have multiple partitions with different operating system versions (like 8.6, 9.1)...
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