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wove
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Reply #15 on: June 02, 2006, 00:23
I have a Duo 280 and a Quadra 840 currently running 7.1 Pro. I have a PB3400 and an 8600/300 which are running 8.1. Both are eligible for 7.6.1, but I need to locate an installer. bill |
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Ursa
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Reply #16 on: June 02, 2006, 00:36
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I have a 7200/90, 136MB RAM, ATI Rage 128, triple-booting between 7.5.5, 8.1, and 9.1... How does 7.6.1 perform relative to 7.5.5? My machine doesn't seem faster under 7.5.5 relative to 8.1--if I knew for sure I could get a boost from 7.6.1 I'd definitely give it a try...
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dpaanlka
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Reply #17 on: June 02, 2006, 02:11
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Quote from: "Ursa" How does 7.6.1 perform relative to 7.5.5? My machine doesn't seem faster under 7.5.5 relative to 8.1--if I knew for sure I could get a boost from 7.6.1 I'd definitely give it a try... Well, that can easily be explained by several things. First of all, I'm guessing you haven't read much of the main site, and haven't installed SpeedDoubler 8 and LibMoto, or any of the updates recommneded on the software updates page. But even if you did, 7.5.5 (and everything below it) is almost entirely 68k code, which has to be emulated on PowerPC Macs. Very slow PowerPC Macs (such as 90mhz) will actually emulate 68k code slower than a 68k machine would if SpeedDoubler 8's 68k emulation is not installed and active. So right off the bat, your machine is not going to be running to it's full potential, especially if you don't have SpeedDoubler 8 installed. And even if you do, 68k emulation speed can never match full PowerPC speed, and 7.5.5 has to rely more on 68k emulation. 7.6.1 features more PowerPC code than 7.5.5 and below, and therefore the speed difference becomes more apparent between it and Mac OS 8 (and 7.5). Adding SpeedDoubler 8's 68k emulation enhances this even further, and don't forget about LibMoto. 7.6.1 with SpeedDoubler 8 and LibMoto will be noticeably faster than 8.anything. 7.6.1 also happens to be vastly more stable than 7.5.5, has better features, works with more software (such as IE) and is faster (due to the PowerPC code). 7.6.1 was the first really "modern" version of the Mac OS, and actually shares much in common with Mac OS 8. Think of it as Mac OS 8.0 with the Mac OS 7's lightweight GUI (the HFS+ file system didn't come until 8.1) and none of the fancy Finder features. In fact, "Mac OS 7.5.5" is incorrect, as it wasn't technically the official name of the Operating System until version 7.6. It was still "System 7.5.5." Is 7.6.1 a worthy upgrade from 7.5.5? Yes, by far. They are practically not even related OSes.
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Ursa
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Reply #18 on: June 02, 2006, 10:45
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OK, dpaanlka, that's exactly the definitive answer I was looking for--THANKS! I'll soon be shopping eBay for a copy of 7.6.1. BTW, I did thoroughly look over your site when it was first mentioned on Low End Mac a few months ago; I don't recall any mention of LibMoto then or I would've installed it. I haven't played around much with System 7.5.5 because the versions of IE and Netscape that run on it are pretty much useless these days, and I do a lot of surfing...
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jkoci
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Reply #19 on: June 05, 2006, 03:03
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I have a LCIII and PB 1400 that run 7.6.1 as well as PB 165 and LC that run 7.1.
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dpaanlka
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Reply #20 on: June 05, 2006, 03:28
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Quote from: "Ursa" I haven't played around much with System 7.5.5 because the versions of IE and Netscape that run on it are pretty much useless these days, and I do a lot of surfing... Well then you're probably glad to know that Internet Explorer 5 does, in fact, run on Mac OS 7.6.1. Although, all classic browsers are pretty out dated. IE 5 is way better than IE and Netscape 4 though, thats for sure. Oh yes, browsing speed is a poor judgement of computer performance, since all Mac OS classic browsers are terrible.
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signal11
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Reply #21 on: June 05, 2006, 05:56
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Current Macs (Model - System ver.): Power Mac 6100/60 - 7.6 Power Mac 6100/66 DOS - 7.6.1 IIci - 7.6.1 Quadra 650 - A/UX 3.1.1 Classic - 7.0.1 Power Mac 7300/180 - 8.6
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Blåtann
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Reply #22 on: June 05, 2006, 10:28
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Now i do have a Mac running on sys 7 (well sort of), it´s system 7.7 :-) You can visit it at http://sys7.mine.nu until the ip chages (yes i will try to update the ip acordingly) By now it´s NetPresenz but i might setup something else And i deasent site? What is there to say, please tell me what kind of site i should setup.
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Ursa
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Reply #23 on: June 07, 2006, 08:21
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Quote from: "dpaanlka"
Having IE 5.0 functionality on 7.6.1 is a huge bonus relative to 7.5.5, which is only supported by IE 4.0.1 and Netscape 4.05. And I fully agree that browser speed is a poor indicator of overall performance--I have other older workstations running various operating systems that perform splendidly until you launch a browser...
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dpaanlka
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Reply #24 on: June 07, 2006, 08:49
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Yes, even G4s running Mac OS 9 feel slow running Mozilla and IE 5. Safari on a 350mhz G3 iMac feels way way faster than Mozilla 1.3.1 running on a 700mhz G4. Sad, when the Machines run so fastly doing anything else. My 8600/200 feels awesome running Photoshop 5.5 and Word 98, but launch IE and whoa its suddenly slow.
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occupant272
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Reply #25 on: June 13, 2006, 04:33
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Wow...now that my 400MHz iMac DV has decided not to boot anymore, I really want a G4. BUT I have four perfectly good computers in the closet so I guess I could get some use out of them before putting any money into a G4 system. Have a IIsi 5/40 with 7.0 on it and 7.0 on floppies, no reason to change that unless I find a bunch of 30-pin RAM and a good SCSI drive (I wonder if my 250MB out of my old Q610 still spins?). Have a 7600/120 with I think 16MB of RAM and running 7.6.1 Have a 4400/200 which has 8.6 on it. Have a stripped 6500/225 with NOTHING on it. And I have a beige G3/266 but it can't run anything before 8.0, can it? Maybe I should pool all my parts together and run 7.6.1 on the 4400. I should be able to put either 64MB or 80MB of RAM, two 2GB hard drives (1 SCSI, 1 IDE), and a 24X CD-ROM. That ought to be enough to stay online until I can afford something newer (or maybe I'll decide it's good enough?) The last time I used 7 for anything was in 2001, when I was a cab driver, on a Duo 280C with 24MB of RAM and a 160MB HD running I think 7.5.3 or 7.5.5 and it was decent. Had virtual memory set to 48MB and it was good for email, message boards, and eBay. I had an Earthlink account and the built-in 19.2 modem always got me a solid connection. A hotel maid knocked it off a bedside table and cracked the screen and that was the last time I used 7. I was also running 7.6.1 on a Quadra 610 with 36MB RAM and a 250MB HD but I sold that computer (sans HD) before the laptop got broken. The next computer I got was a 6500/225 for free, about 2 years later when I stopped driving cabs. Since it already had 8.5 on it when I got it, I had it upgraded to 9.1 thinking newer is better. By that time the drives crashed and it's been in my closet since.
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sierraredd
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Reply #26 on: June 13, 2006, 08:16
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Getting ready to add a Powerbook 1400/133 to my collection of 1400's. This one will get 7.6.1 on it and will be wireless with an orinoco wifi card. Just need to find the right one. Once I get it I will swap screens with my g3 1400, and see what else it needs. For those counting it's 3 1400's. A g3 upgrade, 117 don't work (that's where the g3 camefrom), a 133 (that's where the "c" screen is coming from).
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dpaanlka
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Reply #27 on: June 13, 2006, 16:24
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Combining parts from several machines to make one super machine is an excellent idea. A Power Mac 4400 is a great candidate for this too, and will run extremely fast with Mac OS 7.6.1.
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sierraredd
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Reply #28 on: June 14, 2006, 07:51
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What's even cooler is when you take parts from one machine to make a super 1400 (in my case) and after a while the fear of tearing them open goes away, rip open the one that didn't work (a loose hdd cable) put it back together and put the old parts in the parted out one and the thing works. So by the time I'm done I should have three fully functional 1400's running 7.6.1!
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bd1308
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Reply #29 on: June 14, 2006, 22:03
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2400c-----------7.6.1 1400cs----------7.6.1 Powerbook G4----10.4.6 (overclocked 100Mhz) Performa 6116CD-7.6.1 (Sonnet 240 G3 card & AV card) Duo 2300c-------7.6.1 P-Mac 5400------7.6.1 (Sonnet L2/400Mhz & 160GB drive) b
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