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snes1423
256 MB  Posts: 458 A Man born of Mechina 
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on: September 12, 2024, 16:35
so gmail is going to start forcing oauth sometime this autumn https://support.google.com/a/answer/14114704?hl=en outlook already enforces it and everything else cost money to use i rely HEAVILY upon having email access of some sort idk about you guys i tried the first class thing never got it to work always would just error out... |
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Johnny7
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64 MB Posts: 78 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #1 on: September 12, 2024, 19:22
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Unfortunately, most email is going the way of some sort of authentication. Some years back, I even had to stop using POP3 & SMTP for exchange using Mac Mail. Then last year, I was forced to delete and re-add my exchange acct in Mac Mail to allow authentication. And yes, I pay for a domain & an Exchange acct. What I didn't read was, will browsers eventually require OAuth to log into Gmail? Maybe someone will come up with an OAuth proxy. Maybe the Mac Garden will come to the rescue with an e-mail SSL / OAuth tunnel to access Google APIs. 😊
Last Edit: September 13, 2024, 15:52 by Johnny7
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB  Posts: 2023
Reply #2 on: September 13, 2024, 13:04
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I can totally see a market for a retro computer compatible e-mail provider. Even at 1$ / month this would be something a lot of retro enthusiasts will be willing to pay for. And since that's something the Commodore people want as well as the Atari or Apple folks, there might be a big enough market for such an operation. We shall see. As for Google - it's just the next logical step in their agenda of closer controlling the net. Security is and has always been the theme under which you get people to give up power onto a centralized entity - usually driven by the person or enterprise advocating for it. Same thing here.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1179 System 7, today and forever
Reply #3 on: September 14, 2024, 01:13
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Agreed! I'd pay either a buck month or $100 for lifetime access to a simple email account 
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ShinobiKenobi
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256 MB Posts: 362 System 7 fan
Reply #4 on: September 09, 2025, 23:59
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I would love an email account that will work with computers from the early 2000s and older. However, I don't want just anyone to be able to view my emails, so I would prefer some sort of encryption. Even if it's SSL 1.0 or 1.1, that's better than nothing. Even though it's no longer considered secure, it would still require extra effort to decrypt it, which will still thwart most attempts to eavesdrop. Some of our vintage computers should be compatible with SSL/HTTPS 1.0/1.1, since I see it mentioned in some browser settings.
Last Edit: September 16, 2025, 22:36 by ShinobiKenobi
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eelco
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32 MB Posts: 41 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #5 on: September 20, 2025, 21:24
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I happen to be running an on-premises Exchange Server at home (a modern one, which is actually in use). Because, of course, because! I need enterprise solutions for my home! It is possible to lower the security settings enough to let something like Outlook 97 connect using POP3 and anonymous SMTP. And by 'lower' I should probably say 'disable', because it will use cleartext passwords over unencrypted POP3 connections. As a bonus, you get your security settings jacked back up to modern standards after migrating your Exchange Server to another server or newer version. Parallel to this I run a legacy network governed by a Windows 2000 domain controller. Rather than keep introducing security holes to my modern Exchange Server, I have toyed with the idea of setting up Exchange Server 2000 on a second Windows 2000 VM. Mail clients could then communicate with Exchange 2000 which will act as a proxy, delivering to and receiving from the modern Exchange Server. But, as with many such 'projects', I have all the resources present except time and energy... Furthermore, it is a solutions only I myself can use, because as soon as I expose an Exchange 2000 server to the internet, I will receive an email from my ISP politely asking me to stop using insecure and legacy products on their infrastructure.
Last Edit: September 20, 2025, 21:27 by eelco
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