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Bolkonskij
Administrator 1024 MB  Posts: 2023 
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on: July 11, 2023, 17:48
Knezzen and me were just chatting the other day and thought it'd be fun to go ahead with a summer challenge this day. The challenge: *only* and *exclusively* use a 68k family Macintosh for 10 day straight. Try to do everything at home from your 68k Mac, take a deep dive into your system like back in the day and find new & exciting solutions. Afterwards, share your experience with us e.g. in form a daily summary post here on the forum. (yes, posting from your 68k Mac!) What do you guys think of it? Would anyone be interested in joining us? It'll be kind of like back in the old days where you learn to figure out stuff. |
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Last Edit: July 11, 2023, 18:09 by Bolkonskij
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ovalking
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128 MB  Posts: 199
Reply #1 on: July 12, 2023, 11:00
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>*only* and *exclusively* use a 68k family Macintosh for 10 day straight. I like the idea, but some clarification required... the only Mac you use, the only PC you use, or the only tech you use? At the least, this should encourage me to look for a replacement HD for my P475...
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Knezzen
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Administrator 512 MB Posts: 608 Village idiot
Reply #2 on: July 12, 2023, 11:05
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The only computer you use when not being at work (or working from home). Using a 68k Mac as your primary (and only computer). We discussed that you might be able to use multiple 68k machines at once if you have more than one in your home. It's nice to be able to check your mail or whatever while machine 1 renders a photo or exports some music or whatnot.
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #3 on: July 12, 2023, 13:37
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Yes! Like using a combo e.g. LC III and a PowerBook 520. That's OK. We'll only use 68k Macs and try to do all our stuff on them. Yes, that's why we call it a challenge :-) We'll look for ways to get them to do what we want to do and explore workarounds, tinker with possibilities and first and foremost really USE them like we would have used them back in the days.
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scouter
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64 MB Posts: 81 Retired IT Administraor
Reply #4 on: July 13, 2023, 17:13
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if this is about using System 7 it be nice to extend this to PowerPC's that can run System 7. ie my 6400/200 Christopher.
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mac-cellar
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128 MB Posts: 176 Gotta love System 7
Reply #5 on: July 15, 2023, 19:17
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I would second scouter’s suggestion of extending to PowerPC machines running System 7.
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #6 on: July 16, 2023, 07:06
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Yes, we shall include PPC machines as well and make it a System 7 Challenge! Though I still intend to do it entirely on my IIci 
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #7 on: July 17, 2023, 10:10
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Got to work for a living.
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #8 on: July 18, 2023, 01:53
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I am glad this site came back to life. I have passed on all my 20 year old Mac stuff so I cannot compete in the challenge if it is a contest. But with the site back to life, I have found myself once again enjoying the old software. I use a SheepShaver emulator package from Columbia.edu. It runs full screen on a newer Mac’s workspace. Included scripts enable it to share date easily, print and connect at high speed. What is nice is having ClarisWorks, HyperCard, Cyberdog and NewNotebook II, just a 3 finger swipe away. Copy and Paste works across the old and new as well. It gives me a chance to still use software that I used on a daily basis for many years. The old items I have, I have because they remain useful. Most of my woodworking tools are over a hundred. My coffee pot and juicer belonged to my folks. There is nothing sacred about them, their value is that they continue to provide reliable good service. The same is largely true for old software. It does not need to be a challenge to use it, it should just reliably fill a solid role in our daily workflow.
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Knezzen
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Administrator 512 MB Posts: 608 Village idiot
Reply #9 on: July 19, 2023, 00:20
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It's not a contest, wove. More of a "let's see how we cope" type of challenge. It's about being innovative and value the simpler things in life (or something like that). It's supposed to be fun and hopefully unlock some hidden creativity in all of us
Last Edit: July 19, 2023, 10:32 by Knezzen
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3lectr1c
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32 MB Posts: 36 PowerBook Enthusiast
Reply #10 on: July 20, 2023, 05:03
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I don't think I could get absolutely everything I need done on 7 nowadays as I've got too much modern stuff to work on, like running my YouTube channel and accessing modern web pages, as well as working on my own website. Would certainly be fun to take 10 days to try to do as much as I can on System 7 though. My PB 3400c has some pretty decent speakers, nothing stopping me from making it a dedicated music machine for the time. I'm also on the tail end of restoring a couple PB 1400s that I could use as typing machines. Got some video scripts I need to do up and it's tough to beat that amazing 1400 keyboard. Sounds like fun. When's the planned out date?
Last Edit: July 20, 2023, 05:06 by 3lectr1c
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Knezzen
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Administrator 512 MB Posts: 608 Village idiot
Reply #11 on: July 20, 2023, 10:57
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We're still discussing the date as of now, but It'll probably be in the next week or so.
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #12 on: July 20, 2023, 13:43
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3electr1c's mention of working on a youtube channel lead me to go check out his channel. That is a nice collection of vintage laptops you have on the shelf. Apple laptops generally had good keyboards, so anything that involves lots of typing can be done pleasantly on a 5300 or 1400.
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3lectr1c
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32 MB Posts: 36 PowerBook Enthusiast
Reply #13 on: July 26, 2023, 20:03
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thanks wove! yeah the 1400 kb is great. I'm currently finishing up a hinge reinforcement operation on my main 1400c/166 unit I'm building, will be done after that's finished. got it recapped and everything. The 5300 keyboards are very variable in quality. A good one is ok, but not great. At their worst they go really stiff. The 190, 5300, 3400 systems all use the same keyboards as well, so they all fall under that. 500 series too, the keyboards aren't compatible but the switch style is the same. My 5300 is decent now keyboard wise, but that's after a full key-swap with another dead keyboard I got. The original one off that 5300 was awful. If I had to rate all the apple keyboard from that time, assuming all are in good shape and haven't gone stiff, I'd probably rate them as follows: 1. 1400 2. G3 Wallstreet 3. 100 Series 4. 500/190/5300/3400/kanga 5. PowerBook 150, uses a different key mech than the others, isn't very good. 6. Duo keyboard - briefly used one once, don't own, but they aren't great. I've also heard the 2400 KBs are great but I've never used one.
Last Edit: July 26, 2023, 20:06 by 3lectr1c
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #14 on: July 28, 2023, 13:16
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How about pausing your YouTube channel for the 10 days of the challenge, then record your 10 day journey with System 7 and later editing and publishing it afterwards? Gives your channel some unique content. We're fixing to start on Monday now btw. Either Knezzen or me will have an official announcement up either today or tomorrow.
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