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Bolkonskij
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on: November 11, 2022, 11:54
I'm looking for a System 7 compatible software that combines individual pictures into a slideshow and saves them as a Quicktime movie. Ideally it'd allow for an audio track to be added but that's not a must-have. Anyone ever came across such a software? Yes, I know that Adobe Premiere can probably do it but it's a huge bloated application and I'm really looking for a nifty single-purpose application. |
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Last Edit: November 11, 2022, 12:21 by Bolkonskij
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB  Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #1 on: November 11, 2022, 12:33
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Have you looked at Avid Cinema? Video editing software. Not sure if it does slides I presume it’s similar to premiere. https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/avid-cinema
Last Edit: November 11, 2022, 12:36 by Neal_SE30
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1179 System 7, today and forever
Reply #2 on: November 11, 2022, 17:38
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A few old goodies do come to mind.. Hypercard's the first one (granted, I've never used it since I was more a fan of color-capable applications, but I think it offers audio as well? again, since I haven't used it other peeps may now more on it?) I want to say a colorized competitor for Hypercard did exist called Super Hypercard? I also remember seeing a sort of simple colorizer XCMD for Hypercard I think called Color for Hypercard? Lastly, Macromedia did come out with several versions of its software to create shockwave multimedia productions (yet another program I never used, I think shockwave, playable on some web browsers with a plug-in, was an advanced precursor to the Flash format) so I'd imagine combining audio and images together would be a simple task for any of the 68k versions available, right?  below is the latest 68k versionhttp://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macromedia-director-65-multimedia-studio Oh, and of course, web browsers could also run simple sound files (I want to say WAV audio?) and you can use an animated GIF to have that same effect on a web browser using frames. I know I did piece several neat web presentations that way before Flash came into the scene (those two I did work with being that I did some HTML, JavaScript and Flash development in the early days of the web)  I'm sure there are other similar apps that may be easier to use with perhaps even as good results, but these were the ones that came to mind 
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mac-cellar
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128 MB Posts: 176 Gotta love System 7
Reply #3 on: November 11, 2022, 21:37
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Wow, I could swear I saw just something like this just recently, but not in the Garden. Let me look around a bit.
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MTT
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256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer
Reply #4 on: November 11, 2022, 23:36
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Quote from: Bolkonskij "I'm looking for a System 7 compatible software that combines individual pictures into a slideshow and saves them as a Quicktime movie. Ideally it'd allow for an audio track to be added but that's not a must-have. Oddly, as this may seem. The QuickTime Player Specifically, QuickTime 2.5 as shipped on the Mac OS 7.6.1 install CD. Probably later versions too but we are talking System 7 here, so vers 4 and earlier. You can likely find the Player at the MG too of course The Player also acts as a basic movie editor. Required are the "Authoring Extras" and "Goodies" QT plugins that are included in the 7.6.1 "CD Extras:Movie Player Extras" folder. Also included in the Movie Player Extras folder are some .MOV Animation, MIDI, and Slideshow, example files. The slideshow PHOTOS.MOV located in the "Photos" folder will give you an idea of it's capabilities. No frills, fairly basic stuff. That said. I haven't used the Player for creating QT .mov slideshows, just that I know that it can create them. I assume though, that if you want audio, you would start with an existing MIDI .mov track and copy and paste your pics into it via the Player. I also guess here that PICT would be the format of choice (maybe not, as QT can handle a lot of image types). And you would assemble your pic collection and pre-edit adding text if needed, before pasting them in.
Last Edit: November 12, 2022, 03:42 by MTT
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MTT
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256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer
Reply #5 on: November 12, 2022, 02:25
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While creating .mov slideshows using the QT Player will produce bare bones easy to make slideshows, if you want something a little more upmarket... Take a look at Apple Media Tool 1.2 Likely a better bet though would be Apple Media Tool 2.1 Version 1.2 at 6MB's download doesn't look like it's a complete package. Version 2.1 at 267MB's download, I think would have to be the full enchilada. And DL #2 on the 2.1 page, at 324MB's would be the original Mac/Win hybrid copy of this tool's CD. More on the QT Player however... I've been trying to find a user manual for more info on the editing aspect of the player. I'm not having much luck in that direction so far. A good user guide would be nice.
Last Edit: November 12, 2022, 03:47 by MTT
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #6 on: November 12, 2022, 07:14
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Thanks everybody for their suggestions! @Neal - AvidCinema is more of a classic home movie editor. I'm not sure it even allows for file import other than through a camcorder? @cballero - Hypercard is actually a good suggestion. Well, it always is, isn't it? :-) But it doesn't allow for saving in .mov. Same goes for Macromedia Director, which additionally also falls into the huge software behemoth category. @mac-cellar that makes us two ... I also distinctly remember seeing a software like that but at the time, I wasn't really much interested in it. Small, single purpose application.@MTT - interesting suggestion! In fact, I've been experimenting with using Quicktime 4 Pro for subtitling lately. QT5 actually runs on System 7.6 too and was originally recommended on S7T, but Knezzen and me have been testing it in the last months and we have mixed feeling about QT5 on System 7 - more on that in another post. We may have to change that original recommendation on the page. Anyway, I find Quicktime's capabilities astonishing and intimidating at the same time. The interface does not appear to be made with editing work in mind, but rather as if this functionality was slapped onto it at a later stage. ("we still got 4 weeks in the dev cycle left - what do we add, chaps?") It is, however, worth looking into it. I'll see to test QT4 with that, regardless of 68k or PPC, there is no reason known to me to stick with a QT version prior to 4 at this point.
Last Edit: November 12, 2022, 07:16 by Bolkonskij
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MTT
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256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer
Reply #7 on: November 12, 2022, 13:03
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Quote from: Bolkonskij " I find Quicktime's capabilities astonishing and intimidating at the same time."You're not wrong. It doesn't come across to as being at all intuitive. But I did manage to find a user's guide of sorts, since. It's on the QuickTime 2.0 Software Dev Kit ROM. buried deep in a folder named "::MAC:QuickTime Tools:MoviePlayer 2.0" as a file named "Guide to MoviePlayer (Draft)". Despite it's age, it's useful for even QuickTime 4. I would however like to find the Gold version of this guide and any later copy if it exists. Useful info gleaned: Hold the Option key down as you drag a movie onto the Player and these Edit menu commands change - Paste becomes Add, and Clear becomes Trim. - Add, allows dropping text into the movie to become a text item running in a banner at the bottom of the screen. Trim (I haven't tried yet) I guess that does what it infers. Also drag and drop. If you have all of your pics in a folder, named sequentially, create a new empty movie and simply drag the pics one at a time into the Player's new movie window - no copy and pasting required. <-- maybe even select them all and dump them in (I haven't tried this) as they are named sequentially they'll probably drop in, in order of play. Anyway, I see that there are a lot of editing features available in the QuickTime Player, but making the best use of it is going to be a learning curve.
Last Edit: November 12, 2022, 13:08 by MTT
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1179 System 7, today and forever
Reply #8 on: November 12, 2022, 15:01
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Mike, those two suggestions were genius!  I totally forgot that QT had editing capabilities. And newer doesn't always translate to better on older systems, meaning that while you can author on newer versions, as long as the output encoding supports the chip platform, it should playback well on earlier versions, in this case Apple's video player, the precursor to the QT player! Then you added Apple Video Tool! That's it's own separate video authoring kit, right? Wouldn't that be one of the top contenders for the role BJ (Bolkonskij, here's your new nickname! lol ) was asking for? I honestly had completely forgotten that was part of Apple's offerings!So I imagine AVT may be able to produce something that QT or video player can playback, you know?
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mac-cellar
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128 MB Posts: 176 Gotta love System 7
Reply #9 on: November 12, 2022, 18:25
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Found MooVer 1.3 on an old Mac Addict CD (Disc #5). Looks promising... here is the Introduction from the Read Me file: "Introduction -------------------------------------------------- MooVer is a simple utility that creates a QuickTime movie from a sequence of Macintosh Pict files or sound files dropped onto it. It is great for creating computer animations, slide shows, or batch-converting images or sounds into QuickTime movie format. MooVer works on 68020 or better Macintosh models, is accelerated for Power Macintosh models, requires at least System 7.0, and needs QuickTime version 1.6 or newer. You can optionally "add subtitles" under each image frame. In this case, MooVer will subtitle each frame with text. It will either use the name of each Pict file, or, if there is a special "subtitle" text file in the same folder as the Pict files, MooVer will instead use each text line from this file as subtitles for each frame. The display size of the overall movie is determined by the size of the first image dropped onto MooVer. All successive images, no matter what size they are, will be resized (scaled, not cropped) to fit the size of the first image. MooVer can create QuickTime movies in either 256 colors (8-bit) or millions of colors (24-bit, or TrueColor.) If 256-color mode is used, then any 24-bit Pict images will first be reduced to 8 bits before their frames are added to the movie. You can optionally choose "256 colors dithered" which will generally do a better color-smoothing job than just "256 colors." This is independent of any QuickTime compression settings you choose. MooVer supports the required AppleEvents, which allows it to be automatically controlled by AppleScript in a limited way. MooVer is fully functional Shareware, which means all features are enabled for you to use... esp Software does not believe in "Crippleware." You may try the software a few times to see if it suits your needs. If you find it useful and continue to use it, you are asked to register it by sending a check or money order to esp Software for $10 USA. "
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mac-cellar
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128 MB Posts: 176 Gotta love System 7
Reply #10 on: November 12, 2022, 18:32
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MooVer was shareware. I'll try to upload it later.
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mac-cellar
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128 MB Posts: 176 Gotta love System 7
Reply #11 on: November 12, 2022, 18:49
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Just uploaded MooVer... first upload for me, let me know if there are any snafus. Eager to give this little app a try.
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #12 on: November 12, 2022, 19:19
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Ha, perfect! Thank you very much, mac-cellar. That is the application I remembered reading about. I'll download and give it a try on the 8600, great find.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1179 System 7, today and forever
Reply #13 on: November 12, 2022, 20:34
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Nice one, Mac-Cellar! For such a straightforward task, all it took was for one Mac programmer to come out with a simple and elegant solution!
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