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Neal_SE30
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on: September 28, 2022, 21:46
Hi guys, girls & pan dimensional super system 7 beings. I was looking for web design software for a b&w 68k. I had tried page mill only to find it requires 16 colour or greyscale something my SE/30 is lacking. 1.) are you aware of one for b&w I couldn’t find one on macintoshgarden 2.) could you adopt the code or resedit it to accept 1 bit b&w. Any idea’s welcome 🙏 Neal |
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #1 on: September 28, 2022, 23:43
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Both Bolkonskij and I learnt (and certainly others here!) the art of coding HTML by hand, which is a very fun way to experiment with web site code. You can use any text editor or word processor for this (even SimpleText!) but I know for a fact BBEdit excels at things like this!  The downside is that you don't get the WYSIWYG experience, but it you have the page you're working open in a web browser, you can simply refresh the page after each or a few edits to see how it's coming along. I actually coded entire commercial websites like this and they really looked great. Even so, it really helps to see things in color, especially when you are adding color graphics, since even greyscale art looks off on a B/W display. I do like the idea of adjusting the code to somehow allow PageMill to display in B/W, I think it's something to do with removing the requirement, but with software, you just never know and it could also involve looking at the raw code or even other subtleties not foreseen, but my knowledge of programming code in applications is spotty at best (I will leave the more definitive answers to those who'd know more on this subject!) 
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Bolkonskij
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Reply #2 on: September 29, 2022, 09:04
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Well, the SE/30 was quite dated back when the whole WWW became a mass phenomena, so no surprise the options are somewhat limited. Without checking, but I'd assume that you won't be able to simply hack Pagemill into running in b&w via a ResEdit hack. For example, if I recall correctly, the programming function to create a b&w window GetNewWindow() differs from the one that uses color GetNewCWindow(). Hence we often used to see two different versions of programs - one using the routines for b&w, one using the color ones. So you'd need source code level access and rewrite part of the application. See the Arashi in b&w discussion on the Mac Garden to get an idea of the work involved to get a former color-only game to run in b&w. The only thing that comes to my mind for 68k b&w web design is WebDoor Publisher (retro-compatible). It's 1995 Hypercard (!) stack that allows you to click on elements and create a website model. It basically gives you the HTML structure and you add the content between the tags later on. I haven't played with this one for more than a few minutes, so I don't really know how good it really is for tackling a real project. I got it to add a few elements and generate the code though, so it's a starting point. Since this is Hypercard, it'll also run fine on System 6 and might in fact be the most backward compatible tool for creating a website via a GUI, given Hypercard even runs somewhat OKish on 68000 Mac? Other than that, I can recommend heading over to Blooberry (retro compatible) and reading up on the HTML 3.2 specs. It covers all the stuff you'd need to know.
Last Edit: September 29, 2022, 09:09 by Bolkonskij
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