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ajmoss
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on: June 07, 2007, 18:56
http://lowendmac.com/sable/07/0604.html "Much has been said about software that supposedly works on System 7.6 but not on 7.5.5. These claims are patently absurd: 7.5 and 7.6 are practically the same. Except for a few bug fixes and speed improvements for Power Macs, everything in 7.6.1 is present in 7.5.5 as well." Comments? |
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB  Posts: 1646 
Reply #1 on: June 07, 2007, 18:57
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It's complete nonsense to say that 7.5.5 is 7.6.1's equal. As good as 7.5.5 may be, 7.6.1 is still better, and I'm in the process of writing a counterpoint article revealing why. I don't like the fact that this article seems indirectly pointing at us. The author has clearly not done very much in the System 7 world as nobody who has would say something like that. I haven't used System 7.5.5 in such a long time because of how unstable and unrefined it is.
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madmann
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256 MB Posts: 284 
Reply #2 on: June 07, 2007, 22:58
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this person must be confused, or a bug fix consists of a major rewrite. Go get them Dan. I think this is an attack on s7t. michael
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #3 on: June 07, 2007, 23:12
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Quote from: "madmann" Go get them Dan. I think this is an attack on s7t. Probably not an attack, just ignorance of the facts. I'll be happy to point them out.
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Deni
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16 MB Posts: 24
Reply #4 on: June 09, 2007, 23:54
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you may be the one who is wrong, and that is that it's not him who is not but you who is so you are probably wrong and ya
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #5 on: June 09, 2007, 23:58
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Quote from: "Deni" you may be the one who is wrong, and that is that it's not him who is not but you who is so you are probably wrong and ya Mac OS 7.6.1 is still the ultimate System 7, regardless of what you may be able to hack System 7.5.5 into doing. You can't change the fact that it is (a lot) less stable, has less PowerPC optimizations, and is less reliable on a network, and has fewer nice features. There are also some things 7.5.5 will not work with, like AppleShare IP 5, and Netscape 4.8. Not to say that 7.5.5 is aweful. It's just not as good as 7.6.1. Period.
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Deni
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16 MB Posts: 24
Reply #6 on: June 12, 2007, 03:05
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Quote from: "dpaanlka" Period. That being said, that's not what we're arguing is it? The question is, can 7.5.5 do everything 7.6 can? The guy in the article has evidence, where you just want us to take your word for it. Not to be offensive or anything, but "put up or shutup".
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #7 on: June 12, 2007, 03:57
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I think the object is to create a fast, stable, useful and productive system. Gamba's site makes good points that you can do everything in System 7.1 that can be done in System 7.5. The thrust of System7Today is to provide resources for the user to assemble a computer, OS and applications that support their needs. It not only opens a treasure trove of older applications, but also provide a solid foundation for working in a modern computing environment. OS 7.6 drops support for poor legacy technology such as MacTCP and Networking. PowerTalk falls into the dust bin of history. Along with that it insists on a using a new network model, increases support for newer hardware architectures. And the charm in doing this is that it maintains the classic feel of what came before it. Apple does make 7.5.5 a free download. Depending on your hardware resources, your budget, and your needs 7.5.5 may be perfectly suited to your uses. However I think you will find that OS 7.6 will be more stable, responsive, and more capable than OS 7.5.5 bill
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #8 on: June 12, 2007, 05:27
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Quote from: "Deni" That being said, that's not what we're arguing is it? The question is, can 7.5.5 do everything 7.6 can? The guy in the article has evidence, where you just want us to take your word for it. Not to be offensive or anything, but "put up or shutup". OK... AppleShare IP 5 is a big example (which powers this site). And how about AppleShare Client 3.8.3, for like, stable file-sharing with Mac OS X computers? Netscape 4.8 won't install, but I'm not going to bother to see if that can be hacked (I wouldn't be surprised if it couldn't). Some various smaller apps and utilities won't work either. Apple System Profiler 2.1.2 comes to mind. I'm fully aware that in a majority of cases, third party software that can run under 7.6.1 will run under 7.5.5. But it's not always the case, and besides, there are many other reasons to use 7.6.1 other than what software you can run with it. 7.5.5 is a perfectly good operating system, and it's great that Apple is generous enough to give it to us for free, surely keeping thousands of vintage Macs running. But 7.6.1 is the ultimate version of System 7.
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Steve_G
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16 MB Posts: 18 
Reply #9 on: June 27, 2007, 18:27
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Also, on some PowerBook and Powermac Models, 7.5.5 is not a option and you are stuck with 7.5.3 as your only 7.5 Version (Powerbook 1400 is a prime example of this).
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MacTCP
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16 MB Posts: 21
Reply #10 on: July 11, 2007, 19:56
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On my Quadra 700, I run System 7.5.0. 7.5.3 and higher make it lock up at startup. You have to Force Quit the Finder to get to the desktop. Once there, any color/resolution changing thing locks up when you try to use it, including the control panel and control strip module. It's odd because 7.6.1 doesn't have that happen on my LC III. 7.5.0 doesn't feel much worse than 7.6.1. However, 7.5.0 seems a lot less cleaned than 7.6.1. I feel that 7.6.1 is much better than 7.5.x for internet browsing. 7.5.0 doesn't use Open Transport, so I can't internet browse at all. You have to have 7.5.3 or higher for that.
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Blessed Cheesemaker
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8 MB Posts: 13
Reply #11 on: July 12, 2007, 03:56
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I have 7.6.1 and 7.5.5 installed on separate partitions on my LC 575. I had to transfer files from my Umax Supermac clone running OS 9.1 to my little LC 575. I was in System 7.5.5 and hooked up the ethernet cable, switched AppleTalk over, clicked on MacTCP, adjusted the settings, and...nothing. No joy. Rebooted, still no joy. Finally, switched start up disks to 7.6.1, adjusted my settings, changed the TCP/IP settings and immediately found the Supermac, transeferring my files. I've done this before with OS 7.5.5, and earlier, but who needs the hassle. Out of the box, 7.6.1 has much more in common with the modern Mac OS's than 7.5.5 and earlier. (I actually prefer running System 7.1 if I want an earlier System 7, but that is another thread).
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tomlee59
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8 MB Posts: 12
Reply #12 on: July 18, 2007, 08:34
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Dan -- Let us know when you are about to have LEM print your rebuttal article. I think that a lot of people are confused by 7.5.5 vs. 7.6.1 (I was certainly a bit fuzzy on this myself, so thanks for the education), and Tyler's article only reinforced some misconceptions.
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