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on: November 05, 2006, 05:06

The software for the Kensington Mouse drivers available on their web site, states that OS 8.1 is required. This is not correct, the software does install fine on 7.6.1 (PowerPC only). It installs the Appearence Manager software and I am not sure whether that is good or bad.

A nice feature one gets with this software is ability to use the trackball for scrolling and this works fine in System 7.6.1.

The Mouseworks software does only work with PPC machine and with the four button trackballs. If anyone happens to know where to get the earlier versions of the Mouseworks software that works with 68K machines and with earlier versions of the OS it would be very handy to have a post link.

Thanks
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Reply #1 on: November 05, 2006, 06:24

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It installs the Appearence Manager software and I am not sure whether that is good or bad.


Very bad.  See if the mouse will function with Appearance manager disabled.
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Reply #2 on: November 05, 2006, 15:47

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It installs the Appearence Manager software and I am not sure whether that is good or bad.


Very bad.  See if the mouse will function with Appearance manager disabled.


The Kensington Turbo Mouse functions as a stock one button mouse even without any additional software. Version 5 of the Mouseworks software does not seem to function without the Applearance Manager Lib, however the trackball does function as a one button mouse without any drivers.

Version 4 of the Mouseworks software should work fine with 7.6.1. I will dig about and see if I can find an old copy. What is it about the Appearance Manager that is bad with 7.6.1. I seem to recall reading something about the matter, but find nothing close at hand.

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Reply #3 on: November 06, 2006, 01:29

Here's a post on a different thread concerning Appearance Manager:

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Apperance Manager was never 100% optimized for Mac OS 7, and there are enough little bugs here and there that annoy me to the point where I can't use it.  I'll try to explain the best I can, it can be rather confusing...

In Mac OS 7.6.1, the GUI is largely 68k coded, and placing Apperance Manager on top of that doesn't change that, it simply "skins" it, so even on PowerPC Macs you're rendering Mac OS 8's more complex GUI through 68k emulation.  Yuck.

Mac OS 7's black and white GUI is faster through 68k emulation than Mac OS 8's native PowerPC platinum GUI, however Mac OS 8's platinum GUI running through 68k emulation on Mac OS 7 runs slower than all of them.

Fastest - Mac OS 7's Built in GUI
Average - Mac OS 8's Built in GUI
Slow - Mac OS 7 running Mac OS 8's GUI

Also, Apperance Manager on Mac OS 7 often leaves screen artifacts, doesn't redraw properly, and gosh darnit makes WindowShade crazy!  I suppose if your personal taste overwhelms all of the above facts, then you're right it's a matter of personal taste.

I should make this an article on why not to use Apperance Manager.


So there you have it.  I used to use AM under System 7.5.5 but dumped it after getting artifacts and odd windowing behavior on my display.
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Reply #4 on: November 06, 2006, 02:26

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Here's a post on a different thread concerning Appearance Manager:

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Apperance Manager was never 100% optimized for Mac OS 7, and there are enough little bugs here and there that annoy me to the point where I can't use it.  I'll try to explain the best I can, it can be rather confusing...


So there you have it.  I used to use AM under System 7.5.5 but dumped it after getting artifacts and odd windowing behavior on my display.


Thank you for the information. I was not even aware that the Appearance Manager worked with 7.5.5. You can turn of the "Platinum Appearance" in the Appearance Manager which does bring the desktop back to the stock System 7 look.

I have always felt that the desktop under System 6 was the most productive. Icons at that point were very much symbols at that point and I found it easiest to tell things apart at a quick glance. And along the same lines I like System 7's desktop better than OS 8 or OS 9, which are in my opinion far better than what we have been given in OS X.

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Reply #5 on: November 06, 2006, 03:27

I would just disable Appearance Manager altogether, as even though disabling the Platinum appears to bring back the stock interface, it actually isn't (as indicated by the 3D colored Apple).  So artifacts and stuff will still remain, and although I haven't done any testing, I wouldn't be surprised if it is still slower.
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Reply #6 on: March 10, 2007, 23:47

I have a copy of turbo mouse 4.02.  The data on the disk is 1992 that would be 68040 days. I will check to see if I can read the disk Let me know if you are interested
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Reply #7 on: March 11, 2007, 03:40

bill I fired up the ci and copied turbo mouse 4 to the hard drive.  The disk copied fine.  this is for sure 68000 software.  the teach text file discussed quadra 700 900 issues.  Can we upload this disk s7t?
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Reply #8 on: March 11, 2007, 22:26

Send it to me in .hqx format to staff(at)system7today(dot)com
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Reply #9 on: March 14, 2007, 14:23

did you recieve the folder and were you able to open it?
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Reply #10 on: March 14, 2007, 18:05

Yes, but I have to re-compress it into a format System 7 can read (which sitx isn't one of them).
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Reply #11 on: March 14, 2007, 20:08

I was afraid of that, I was in a hurry leaving for DC. I started to use Disk Doubler and create a .sea file for you.  I will be back next week If you need it I can sent it then.  Disk Doubler is totally system 7.
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Reply #12 on: March 14, 2007, 23:16

Yes, but .sea files aren't transferrable over the internet.  They have to be hqx-ed or bin-ed in addition to sea (a Self Extracting Archive is just an application, and Mac applications don't transfer over the internet).
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