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on: October 22, 2006, 19:59

i found this site a few months ago but never really got around to using it.

My parents gave me our old Performa 550. It was running for a while and i would use it to play game like tetris and some centipede game that i can never remember the name of.

anyway, my performa can't seem to find the start up disk and i have no way to make a system 7 boot disk. I'm hoping i can find some help on this site.

thanks!
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Reply #1 on: October 22, 2006, 22:04

Welcome!

If you have no way to make a system7 disk of any sort, you might be able to pick some up from <a href=http://stn2.headgap.com>this site</a> though considering 7.5.3 is *free* I'd consider trying to find another way to get it.  Will the CD-ROM in that thing read burned discs?  It's a long shot, but you might be able to get the files downloaded from Apple and burned to a CD-ROM, but that's only really possible if you have another Mac.
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Reply #2 on: October 22, 2006, 22:05

ah, my kingdom for an edit button...*sigh*
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Reply #3 on: October 22, 2006, 23:36

yeah, i would hate to have to actually buy the discs, but i would be more than willing to pay for postage and such if i can find somebody willing to make a bootable disk for me.

i have a feeling that my Performa won't read a burned disc. I burned the system 7 disc image to a cd and didn't have any luck having it boot from the cd.

then again, i'm not sure if i made the disc wrong either.
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Reply #4 on: October 23, 2006, 03:13

The downloadable Mac OS 7.5.3 installer lacks a System Folder and isn't bootable, so just burning the 19 diskette images onto a CD won't get Mac OS onto your Mac, unless the system already has a bootable Mac OS installed with the appropriate CD-ROM extensions enabled.  

You need a Disk Tools diskette, or a system with Mac OS already installed, to run the installer for the downloadable System 7.5.3.  

The most foolproof way to use the downloadable System 7.5.3 is just to use floppies made on another Mac running Classic.  You will need 20 floppies:  one for a Disk Tools diskette, and 19 more for the System 7.5.3 downloadable images.   If I recall correctly, the process to do a clean install goes like this...USE AT YOUR OWN RISK:
 
On a diskette-drive-equipped Mac running Classic, do the following:
1.  Initialize (format) 20 diskettes using the 1.44MB Macintosh format.
2.  Download and create a Disk Tools diskette.  Here's one that I would try:  ftp://ftp.uwm.edu/pub/mac/DiskTools_75.img.sit
3.  Download the 19 System 7.5.3 disk images.
4.  Using Stuffit, unstuff the 19 disk images.
5.  Put each of the 19 unstuffed images onto a separate diskette.

After you've made all these diskettes, install System 7.5.3 on your Performa 550:
1.  Boot using a Disk Tools diskette.
2.  If you can access your hard drive and do not wish to repartition or initialize it, go to step 7.
3.  Run Drive Setup or HD SC Setup (depending on your Disk Tools diskette) to partition and initialize your hard drive.  Note that this will destroy any data on your hard drive.
4.  Copy the entire Disk Tools diskette to your hard drive.
5.  Shut down the system.
6.  Power up the system without the Disk Tools diskette.  It should boot using the files you just copied from the Disk Tools diskette.
7.  Create a folder on your hard drive.
8.  Copy the 19 System 7.5.3 diskettes to the folder you just created.
9.  Double-click on the file System_7.5.3_01of19.smi
10.  The system will verify the disk images, and, if successful, self-mount a new folder.
11.  In this new folder, click Install System Software.  The installer will walk you through the rest of the process.

Sure, System 7.5.3 is freely downloadable...but considering the time involved (count on a few hours spent juggling diskettes, plus the time spent downloading if you're using a dial-up connection) and the fact that a box of diskettes will probably cost you about the same as a used System 7.6 CD-ROM will on eBay, it's not really a bargain.
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Reply #5 on: October 23, 2006, 05:19

i may be off the mark here, but i think i just need a bootable cd, right? (i assume i can't boot from a single floppy)

right now i don't have access to a mac running anything previous to OS X, so does that mean my best option is looking for a Performa 550 system disc off ebay?
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Reply #6 on: October 23, 2006, 07:47

You don't need a CD that's specific to your Performa 550, but you DO need a Full Retail CD, and it must NOT be the Power Macintosh-only edition.  Look for one with a white label, like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-Mac-OS-7-6-full-installer-Mac-Classic-Full-OS7-6_W0QQitemZ170040956216QQihZ007QQcategoryZ11231QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

How much RAM does your Performa have?
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Reply #7 on: October 23, 2006, 15:01

i'm pretty sure that my performa only has the standard RAM considering my parents bought it for the family back in the day and none of us really knew much about computers back then.

are you sure that a 7.6.1 cd will work on my performa? for some reason i was thinking that I had to start with the OS that came with my performa and then upgrade to 7.6.1

btw, thanks for your help. i really appreciate this.
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Reply #8 on: October 23, 2006, 18:21

No, you can install any version of the OS that your computer supports at any time.  Since the Performa 550 not only doesn't have a PowerPC processor, but doesn't even have the best 68k processor, the maximum you can run happens to be 7.6.1.
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Reply #9 on: October 23, 2006, 22:46

You will probably want to max out your Performa's memory, especially if you plan to go online with it.  The 550 comes with 4MB of RAM mounted on the motherboard, and has 1 SIMM slot which can handle up to a 32MB SIMM, for a total of up to 36MB.  http://www.kahlon.com has the 32MB SIMM you need for just $10 postpaid.

I've never played with an '030 Mac, and wonder how well one would perform with System 7.6.1.  If it proves too sluggish, you could freely download and try System 7.0.1 from Apple, and switch between the two Systems as needed.
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Reply #10 on: October 24, 2006, 00:55

doh!

i figured that i would need to max out the memory so i just bought some. wish i would've seen this post earlier.

i'm also thinking about trying out one of these as well.

http://www.sonnettech.com/product/presto_plus.html

any thoughts?

any hard drive reccomendations?
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Reply #11 on: October 24, 2006, 01:19

Please start new topics in the appropriate forum when you're, well, starting new topics.  That way we can keep track of things and find them easier next time! :grin:
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