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Lichen Software
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Reply #15 on: January 29, 2024, 21:28
cballero .... I had some time and got a manual scanned. I sent you an email. |
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #16 on: January 30, 2024, 00:03
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Thank you for that, Lichen Software! 
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MTT
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256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer
Reply #17 on: January 30, 2024, 02:55
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Also for consideration... DL the FM Pro 4.0 Developer Edition and the FM Pro 3.0 SDK from the MG, if you don't have a copy already. Loads of goodies in here, and you can make standalone solutions too if desired.
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Lichen Software
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128 MB Posts: 252
Reply #18 on: January 30, 2024, 17:17
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cballero ... I need you to tell me how to send this manual to you. It is about 18 mb. If your email provider can handle a simple email address will do. This is the written material that goes with the developer's edition. As FNP3 and FMP4 are of the same family, both using the extension fmp.3, if I remember correctly, this should be pretty good for both
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #19 on: January 30, 2024, 20:39
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Thanks Lichen Software! sent you a PM where you can upload the scan! Thanks so much for this!! 
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #20 on: January 30, 2024, 20:45
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Thanks for all those, MTT! I'm gong through them as some of FMs earlier solutions are perfect; I've even built a run-time of a project management tasks solution already with the SDK and I'm tryng to see how to network it with itself on my other Macs, lol! And the fact that it's able to do this alone is super cool!  I tested that with FM 4.
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lauland
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512 MB Posts: 674 Symtes 7 Mewconer!
Reply #21 on: February 02, 2024, 17:43
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@cballero et al, I've been getting a huge kick out of your use of FileMaker in the 2020's. In a previous life I used it for EVERYTHING. As a system admin at a University I'd ran fmpro servers for several of my jobs, including a hacky attempting to scale it far larger than it was ever meant to. I'd even use it for C code generation, editing large tables and building switch statement content in it, then exporting to tab separated and using a perl script to crate the code. It always had its detractors, that it isn't truly relational and doesn't do SQL, but it was SO close to perfect! ---- FileMaker (like HyperCard) is one of those packages I'm shocked doesn't have a "modern" equivalent. It is so empowering for people who'd otherwise not be able to use a database at all. MS Access should be as easy and friendly, but no, such a mess! You'd think we'd have something like filemaker on all our phones!
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #22 on: February 03, 2024, 13:03
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@Lauland: I knew I wasn't alone in loving all FM can do, even 30+ years later! and I was sold since version 2.1!  And a modern phone FileMaker-like app? Count me in for sure!!  I get older Classic Mac versions of FM indeed weren't relational, but I think it did become later on, along with SQL? SQL itself is such a web mystery to me; all I know is that it lives in site back-ends just doing its thing! Even the versions I'm testing now, 3-6, were so powerful back then. I'm rediscovering that long-lost magic and to use it to inspire families locally, well, I'm so on-board on a project like that of course! It also allows me to play, as time allows, with more Mac projects! My own kiddo inspires me to provide more Classic Mac toys to play with and I see the growth in interest in personal computing, the old fashioned Mac way! Just know that all of you help form part in this effort, and it can serve as a way to do similar small things in your side of the world as well, so a big thanks from me!!
Last Edit: February 03, 2024, 13:05 by cballero
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MTT
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256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer
Reply #23 on: February 04, 2024, 00:25
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FileMaker exists today - as FileMaker Pro, Server and Go. The production company is still an Apple owned subsidiary, with a changed company name, from FileMaker Inc. back to "Claris" (https links). The latest Pro version's Release Notes (Nov 2023). FileMaker Go is for developing FileMaker custom apps for iOS and iPadOS devices. It's not a new product and has been around for a few years now. That said, I haven't used any of these new versions, the final FileMaker I have installed is Pro version 6... and still enjoy using v3 & 4 on obsolete Mac and Windows OSs. And although I'm not likely to be delving into SQL at anytime soon, FM Pro supplied ODBC plug-ins to enable data access to SQL servers from version 5.0 on. FileMaker Pro 5.0 was the last FileMaker version to support System 7 (PPC only) requiring a minimum 7.6.1 - Say, I'm back on topic  [Edit] The first FMPro ODBC plug-ins were trialed with version 4.1 (Web Archive)
Last Edit: February 04, 2024, 01:50 by MTT
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lauland
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512 MB Posts: 674 Symtes 7 Mewconer!
Reply #24 on: February 05, 2024, 15:26
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Oh yeah, there were always decent ways to view and use FileMaker files on mobile devices. We did quite a bit with Palm way back in the day... But what I meant was there's no full database dev environment anywhere near as friendly...ie that'd let you do visual design of the interface and create the database from scratch. The entire FileMaker style experience on your phone. (Not just connecting to a server). And the point bringing up Access is, not even on the modern desktop is there anything as small, self contained, and, easy and friendly to use. I mean, someone with zero db knowledge can just start casually dragging things around. And built in peer to peer casual networking, or generating a pretty decent web interface version on the fly, is something powerful we're missing. ---- Relational support was pretty hacky, not from the ground up, nor smooth...it always felt bolted on, as it was! And started feeling getting fragile, like links and aliases instead of real relations, when you really pushed it. Anything can "do SQL" with the right plugin, but it was never a smooth experience with FileMaker. At least compared to native SQL databases. Again, like the relations, you could do it...to a point. We got to the holy grail of querying it remotely via sql, and/or using it as solely as a front end to "real databases", but it is extremely messy. I used to tell the users I supported that FileMaker was truly awesome at the bottom end, up to a certain (arguably large) scale, and then it would get pretty fragile, and you'd end up spending most of your time pushing it where it was never really designed to go. Then there was the (huge) leap to a hosted (usually MySQL) database, with something like a php frontend...but there was never something in between those solutions.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #25 on: February 10, 2024, 15:49
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I really want to thank everyone who's helped me so far with FM resources! It's amazing to see our combined materials come together when it matters! And I really can't wait to see how things unfold as the power of Classic Mac returns to the everyday families in my corner of the world (although that corner has the added ability to be just about anywhere!) Keep 'em coming and I promise as big milestones are reached, to share updates with all of you! Finally, my little Mac project that started during the Covid-isolation period is actually taking on wings, in a better-late-than-never sort of way! Who knew homechooling moms and dads would be all over this? Thanks again, everyone!!
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #26 on: February 10, 2024, 19:44
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@lauland - You wouldn't happen to have such an ODBC/FMP driver for 68k laying around somewhere, waiting to be uploaded to let's say the Garden, would you?
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