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MTT 256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer	on: September 18, 2022, 07:06 It's very nice to see some familiar faces from the Macintosh Garden in here. In the MG I have the designation MikeTomTom, here it's just MTT, (Mike is also fine) ;-) Well, that's about it. I was informed that because I have an "ancient" Centris 660av, that I should visit S7T and say hello. So hello to all. I also have a dead SE (SuperDrive model) and a PM 6500 motherboard that would like to meet the rest of itself, Oh and a beige G3 that runs Mac OS 9.1, a Mac mini G4 which runs an unsupported Mac OS 9.2.2 and several classic Mac emulators on the go ;-)
Last Edit: September 18, 2022, 08:41 by MTT
Bolkonskij Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023	Reply #1 on: September 18, 2022, 17:35 Look who joined up! Without blackmail and kidnapping, exciting!! :-) Welcome to our friendly little community, where we cherish and love System 7. Hope you'll keep booting your Centris and join the discussions from time to time. Went to great length to make this forum actually work well on the 68k version of iCab 2.9. (I'm actually writing from my IIci) Great to have you here!

Cashed 128 MB Posts: 192 System 7 Newcomer!	Reply #2 on: September 18, 2022, 21:17 Awesomeness! Fanfare TOM -Tom, Tom, Tom… TOM TOOooom! Mike Is in Da House! Warm welcome -kindhearted soul

mac-cellar 128 MB Posts: 176 Gotta love System 7	Reply #3 on: September 18, 2022, 21:50 Welcome MTT! Nice to make your acquaitance! I'm posting this from a cousin of your Centris 660av - my Quadra 610. Actually, this is the first post ever from this machine, now that iCab 2.9.9 is up and running. Cheers!

Knezzen Administrator 512 MB Posts: 608 Village idiot	Reply #4 on: September 18, 2022, 21:54 Welcome Mike!

MTT 256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer	Reply #5 on: September 19, 2022, 04:07 Heck. Thanks for the welcome posts, folks :-) Love the site, it is awesome. Just feeling my way around. I'll figure out how to add smiley's yet ;-) Posting this via the Centris 660av. Phew, so glad iCab works well in here. While on the subject of discovery. I just tried the Search module for any reference to said smiley's and was hit by this: Quote from: S7T CleanTalk. Spam protection * Forbidden. Please enable JavaScript. Your IP belongs to a high spam risk network. Please, try again without VPN. * Heh. Thanks CleanTalk, but AFAICT I'm not using a VPN and iCab's JavaScript is enabled... Smileys <-- finally
Last Edit: September 19, 2022, 07:59 by MTT
Knezzen Administrator 512 MB Posts: 608 Village idiot	Reply #6 on: September 19, 2022, 10:12 Ah, that triggered our SPAM filter for some reason. Will look into it. Great that you found the smileys! Maybe we should add some info about it.

Bolkonskij Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023	Reply #7 on: September 19, 2022, 11:25 Real smilies don't use pictures ;-)

cballero 1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever	Reply #8 on: September 19, 2022, 14:12 Welcome to the swashbuckling buccaneers-edge of the Mac seven seas, Mike! <- : + D This forum used to be my haunts circa early to mid 2000s, well until Dan decided to put it on hiatus, more due to lack of momentum than anything else! I think I even lost my access at one point and ended up creating a second account, all near the end of Dan's watch back then <- : + ) I was happy to discover the Garden of course, but the S7T forums have always seemed more old-school, and of course, the whole site being hosted from a Mac can definitely go a good ways to make it feel like home! <- ; + ) So again, we are super happy to (finally!!!) have you here my friend! I'm sure you'll enjoy the atmosphere!! We are out of this world!! <- : + o lol

MTT 256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer	Reply #9 on: September 20, 2022, 06:34 @cballero: Thank you for your excellent post and postings throughout that I've read to-date. I've known about S7T for a while now but thought that I already have more online interaction than I would care for... but then, System 7. What's not to like about that? Well, one or two things perhaps, but the good definitely outweighs the bad. @Bolkonskij: y'know, I am so used to typing smilies with a hyphen, ala :-), :-P, :-o, etc, that it didn't occur to me that it was as simple as dropping my old hyphen habit Hyphen habits die hard @Knezzen: Hi, and thanks. I'd mentioned my CleanTalk incident because I found it kind of amusing -in that it was only when using the search field to try to find any smilies "how to's" that CleanTalk objected - posting comments were (lucky for me) not a problem So perhaps some easy to find info on how to use the site effectively, make posts, list of all workable BBcodes, smilies, etc, may be useful for folks as dim as me

wove 1024 MB Posts: 1363	Reply #10 on: September 20, 2022, 15:36 Quote from: “MTT” list of all workable BBcodes Welcome MTT. BBcode can look very nice, but I find it very confusing to use. I know of several sites that use it and as far as I can tell BBcode is not as well standardized as it could be.

MTT 256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer	Reply #11 on: September 21, 2022, 07:46 Hello wove BBcodes; S7T has them enabled, but yes, not too intuitive to use. I haven't used them until the other day, so I am a little curious as to how they function. So far, they seem similar to html tags but use left/right square brackets instead of less/greater than tags. Since arriving on these shores I've been doing as much reading throughout S7T to try and get up to speed with how things work. I came across a post of yours which struck a chord with my early Macintosh days. This was in the Mac OS 8.0/8.1 topic, reply #8 Quote from: woke I mostly used a Mac SE, with a 20MB hard drive and 4MB of RAM. Most everything was created in the Draw module of ClarisWorks, although other modules were used as well. I used Hypercard, creating stacks of clipart and other bits and bobs that I found useful. I invested in a nice color printer for the time, and used a Handyscan scanner to scan in logos and pictures I might need. The system did not show color, but it did output color. This is almost a mirror image of my Macintosh beginnings. I had the SE with a 20MB HD and 4MB RAM. I used the Draw module of ClarisWorks to create all kinds of DTP output and I used HyperCard for much the same things as you did, like clip art and stuff I found useful. We had a hand-held scanner at the time too, but it wasn't Mac compatible (it was cumbersome to use and mono). Quote from: Bolkonskij, who in reply, enquired: Being able to create newsletters on your Mac was something very powerful during the late 80's to 90's - what did you use for layouting? Really just the Draw module of ClarisWorks? It seems so ... simple? Seriously, the ClarisWorks Draw module, while without all of the bells and whistles of QuarkXPress or PageMaker, it was perfectly adequate for knocking out home and small business flyers, newsletters, tri-folds, etc. Bolkonskij: You obviously missed out on the ClarisWorks DTP Challenge There's an article that's well worth a read in this MacFormat magazine of 1995, pages 52 - 55: Quote from: MacFormat Magazine, issue 24 The Claris Challenge: Can your Works package match the big boys when It comes to home DTP? Derek Smith shows you how you can create a professional-looking publication on a shoestring budget... It's a 90MB download... One of soudesune's better scans, OCR'd too.
Last Edit: September 21, 2022, 08:07 by MTT
Bolkonskij Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023	Reply #12 on: September 21, 2022, 09:25 Quote from: MTT Seriously, the ClarisWorks Draw module, while without all of the bells and whistles of QuarkXPress or PageMaker, it was perfectly adequate for knocking out home and small business flyers, newsletters, tri-folds, etc. Bolkonskij: You obviously missed out on the ClarisWorks DTP Challenge Yes! I never did any DTP work on a Mac. Believe it or not. We were the average Macintosh LC home user family without doing any graphics / DTP work on it. Writing letters, balancing the family's budget and games (mostly me) were the main tasks during the early 90's. In fact, most time during the 90's that whole DTP thing upset me because every Mac magazine you'd buy would dedicate at least 50% of it's pages to that stupid graphics / publishing thing. A total waste of pages for the young me! ;-) It was only later on that I got interested in typography, graphics and the like and started to understand why the Mac was so great for that kind of work. Now I'd love to make a newsletter on my IIci. With the WWW, there's just no point in doing so anymore :-) As for BBcode, there's a box with examples beneath the "Post" button when writing a reply: http://revontulet.org/2022/09/21/bbcode.jpg
Last Edit: September 21, 2022, 09:33 by Bolkonskij
wove 1024 MB Posts: 1363	Reply #13 on: September 21, 2022, 10:43 The SE was one heck of a nice machine, and ClarisWorks was an exceptionally fine piece of software. The first impressions are often the most lasting. With ClarisWorks and HyperCard being so powerful and easy to use they tainted my view of software and productivity for decades. I still find myself being very leery of big "killer" packages. Another forum I visit that also uses BBcode requires that "Username" be surrounded by quotes, while in here the quotes are not needed. I gather that when the post is made, here is also no check to make sue the Username is an actual reference to a user. so: Quote from: HeyYou This is not actually quoting at all.

Bolkonskij Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023	Reply #14 on: September 21, 2022, 10:53 Nope, we're not limiting you to quote users. Feel free to add a quote from another article or a great philosopher whenever it seems adequate :-)

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