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snes1423
256 MB  Posts: 458 A Man born of Mechina 
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on: November 12, 2021, 17:19
it has the same compatibility in terms of software and when you used to talk about pc vs mac in the system 7 days it would usually involve windoze 3.11 vs system 7.1.2 or 7.5 and it also doesn't receive as much attention as lets say windoze 95 does just like system 7 doesn't receive as much attention as mac os 9.2.2 does but the one great thing that pcs can do do the macintosh cant is legacy bios where you can boot into 3.11 from a thumb drive wheres our ability to boot on a walstreet system 7.6 like a aluminum g4 powerbook can boot mac os 9.2.2 |
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB  Posts: 2023
Reply #1 on: November 13, 2021, 15:50
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I don't know what's worse - actually liking Windows 3.11 or writing posts without punctuation. Still undecided. ;-)
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #2 on: November 14, 2021, 14:26
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Bolkonskij - If someone actually likes Windows 3.11 and adds Windoze 95 to that, then I think the lack of punctuation is the least of his worries. :-O And I say that as a Windoze programmer from the early days of that abomination.
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #3 on: November 14, 2021, 19:04
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Windows up through 3.11 was built on the Motif interface, which is one of my favorite UIs. I have often wondered at that point in time whether DOS or Win 3.11 had more users. I think both Win 3.11 and Mac OS 7.0/7.1/7.5 were noted as being equally unstable. Win 95 was something of a game changer it was built on the Standard UI, which I believe was created at the University of Indiana. (Notice how MS markets without creating.) I enjoy snes1423's comments. Fresh eyes are being brought to what is an old topic for most of us. Communication is a two way street. If the gist of what is communicated is understood, then the format is mostly immaterial and comments on the format are really out of place.
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snes1423
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256 MB Posts: 458 A Man born of Mechina
Reply #4 on: November 14, 2021, 21:56
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thank you very much @wove i just type way too fast lmao i like 3.11 a lot because i used it at my grandmothers house as a kid she had a all in one compaq and i use to play around with a yamaha midi synth keyboard on it and my dad who is a boomer like you guyz lol  went to wayne state university in detroit michigan and there they had tandy's which by 1993 had been upgraded to windows 3.11 he also mentioned something that he couldn't describe called MOM which im guessing (correct me if im wrong i wasn't born in the last century) is the Program manager which i feel is somewhat similar to the finder in system 7 in the fact its very hard to minimize windows and programs ive run windows 3.11 off a flash drive on my HP G61 320US (from 2009) and heres what i dont get is why cant we run system 7.6.1 on a wallstreet if a alPowerBook G4 can run Mac OS 9.2.2 it doesn't have OF at all
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #5 on: November 17, 2021, 00:13
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I don't understand the "ghist" here at all and moreover I find Bolkonskij's comment wholly appropriate. Motif was *the* GUI standard back in the day, so no kudos to Bill Gates for copying that. But as a former Windows programmer I have seen the ugly under the hood and I highly doubt that MacOS 7 and Win 3.11 were "equally unstable" as wove put it. The memory management of Windows was a mess (mostly due to architectural limitations). The INI file structure was a catastrophe waiting to happen, as almost every new app wrote into that and there was no way to clean that up automatically. Likewise the DLL confusion: Dozens of executables and libraries with the same name in various locations but different versions and which one was choosen all dependet on PATH or LIBPATH. Graphics support was a pain in the rear and you could only run "setup.exe" a certain number of times before it would flat out refuse to start anymore. At that point your only option was a complete reinstall of the damn thing. I could go on lamenting about the need to fiddle around with Interrupt settings and memory I/O blocks … but do I have to? After all this is supposed to be a MacOS site, or isn't it? PS: And posting an unstructured flood of words doesn't make the text more legible or their content more agreeable (to me).
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