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cballero
1024 MB  Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever 
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Reply #15 on: September 18, 2022, 18:28
Well, my crazy little idea has been for quite a while now that Classic Mac users (wait, I think that's us!! lol) could teach each others (newbies  ) the ways of the Classic Mac jedis through these same Macs, whether a family member passed them down one, they got one by any other means, or they built one on their own using real parts or emulated Mac software, it doesn't matter!  But this now has me thinking, so a file server is all we need for playing MP3s, right? Or would that merely download the MP3s? I can test a few MP3 songs off of my local http server, I suppose from my phone Mac for now. The only (itty bitty) downside I can think of is that on a browser, the files would just look so so, whereas it could look cooler with a MP3 jukebox styled-server! Sigh, toys waiting to be programmed, lol  And I already have a local PDF and ebook server, but I haven't tried accessing it from a Classic Mac yet, but it may just work since my local server applications all serve HTTP files so that hurdle is already crossed off. Off to test I'll go then
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ovalking
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128 MB Posts: 199
Reply #16 on: September 18, 2022, 20:50
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Thanks Galgot - I finally got it to work. By comparing our text files, I eventually spotted a subtle difference. There MUST be a carriage return after the URL in the text, or MPEGDec won't play. SoundJam doesnt require this.y
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MTT
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256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer
Reply #17 on: September 19, 2022, 04:57
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I've since found that radio channels that may work fine in more recent players, many of those will not work outright with MpegDec. It's a process of elimination and manual discovery to find those that do. Here's a small playlist of radio channels that do work in MpegDec OK Most are French and UK in origin: [Filelist] NumberOfEntries=16 File1=http://icecast.radiofrance.fr/fip-midfi.mp3 File2=http://icecast.rtl.fr/rtl-1-44-128 File3=http://icecast.rtl2.fr/rtl2-1-44-128 File4=http://radio-contact.ice.infomaniak.ch/radio-contact-high File5=http://str0.creacast.com/magnum File6=http://str0.creacast.com/pharefm File7=http://stream.live.vc.bbcmedia.co.uk/bbc_radio_one File8=http://stream.live.vc.bbcmedia.co.uk/bbc_radio_two File9=http://stream.live.vc.bbcmedia.co.uk/bbc_radio_three File10=http://stream.live.vc.bbcmedia.co.uk/bbc_radio_fourfm File11=http://stream.live.vc.bbcmedia.co.uk/bbc_radio_five_live File12=http://stream.live.vc.bbcmedia.co.uk/bbc_6music File13=http://stream.live.vc.bbcmedia.co.uk/bbc_world_service File14=http://rs26.stream24.net/stream File15=http://listen.radionomy.com/australia-128 File16=http://www.radioking.com/play/poptastic-radio Copy & Paste and save as a .pls A large collection of links here: https://samsoft.org.uk/iTunes/InternetRadio.asp He created it with iTunes in mind, but several will work in MpegDec - a lot of sifting to do, some 6000+ entries and perhaps only 5% of these will work. Maybe more.
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB  Posts: 2023
Reply #18 on: September 19, 2022, 09:39
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For friends of Russian Chanson File17=http://chanson.hostingradio.ru:8041/chanson128.mp3
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #19 on: September 19, 2022, 14:16
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Yay!!! Very, very nice list indeed!!! I'm sure some US-side and even Spanish ones will eventually surface someplace
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #20 on: September 24, 2022, 18:51
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Interesting, I tried that software on my se/30 but using a downloaded mp3. It pretty much froze it, a stuttering mess lol. Not unexpected on a 16mhz machine. 128kbps radio though could work even on zippy my se/30 humm.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #21 on: September 24, 2022, 23:50
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A few key tips that helped me to test why MPEGDEC was so glitchy for me when I first tried it: 1. open your sound panel and select your output settings 2. check to make sure your audio is set to 8-bit rather than 16-bit 3. try lowering the playback quality to a lower setting 4. also tweak your MPEGDEC settings to see if your playback improves 5. one setting that helped my playback was selecting maximum buffer size Hopefully these settings will make possible to play your MP3 file. And I'm guessing that possibly an MP3 with a lower bit-rate may play more easily on your Mac. Good luck testing some of these ideas; I hope MPEGDEC pulls through with some of these setting tweaks!
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #22 on: September 25, 2022, 15:38
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Thanks for that Cballera. I hadn’t Actually looked any further than simply trying it so didn’t look at the settings. i just thought i’d try it for giggles 🤭 to see what would happen as I had read somewhere a top end 68040 was probably the lowest spec to run mp3. Now you’re said that, i will have a fiddle with the settings and see what it can achieve. I’ll let you know
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cantonjohn
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16 MB Posts: 26 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #23 on: February 13, 2023, 17:19
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Anyone able to get the title of the stream showing? All I can get is 'Streaming pls' displayed for each stream. Would be nice to know the name of the current station. The format - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLS_(file_format) - suggests you should be able to put a title tag in the .pls file, like so: Code: [Select] File1=http://stream.live.vc.bbcmedia.co.uk/bbc_radio_one... but no luck with that. The MpegDec Readme suggests that '.m3u' files can be used for streaming too (as well as '.pls'), so maybe I'll give that a go.
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cantonjohn
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16 MB Posts: 26 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #24 on: February 13, 2023, 17:40
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Well, I tried the bbc m3u files here: https://gist.github.com/bpsib/67089b959e4fa898af69fea59ad74bc3 .. and I just get 'Streaming m3u' as the displayed title. Either I'm doing something wrong with the formatting of these playlist files, or MpegDec doesn't support it. Maybe I need to look at the MpegDec source code...
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #25 on: February 13, 2023, 22:12
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When i get zippy working and at 50mhz this is definitely something i want to try. I didn’t try radio before on the program, as i think i said belie only tried an mp3 which was to high a bit rate to run properly. These streams seem like s perfect way to use it. Really helpful info on how to do it.
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #26 on: February 13, 2023, 22:47
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@cballero - With a streaming service the buffer size should actually be smaller as faster your underlying system is. Otherwise you only adding load in case the transfer gets interrupted, you pause or any other action happens that invalidates the buffer - and thus requires it to be refilled from scratch. A buffer is only a crotch to be used to compensate for lack of speed. But if you've got a fast system + fats network) then adding a large buffer on top might actually slow you down again.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #27 on: February 14, 2023, 01:47
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Thanks for that insight, 68040! And @CantonJohn: if you're looking at the source code to display a station's name, you may also like to look at Mark White's development plan to make MPEGDEC skinnable, too!
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MTT
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256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer
Reply #28 on: February 14, 2023, 06:53
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@cantonjohn: It looks as though MPegDec ignores or doesn't know about "Title=" entered into the playlist. I think it also depends on the radio broadcast for the title to show when MPegDec is streaming audio. It didn't seem to work for you, but I get "BBC" showing in the title for all of those BBC stations posted above. No variation, just BBC for all of them. For the Australian channel it returns "Jamendo Lounge", and the German channel returns "Radio Arabella Muenchen" when playing. A couple of the French ones return "Contact, la radio enjoy" and "Magnum La Radio" when playing. Unless... are you expecting the title to show up in the blue bar at the top of the player window? Perhaps you haven't expanded the widow to show channels that give the channel title? About midway down the player's window on left side is "ID3" with a small triangle next to it. Click the triangle to expose additional info if you haven't done this as yet.
Last Edit: February 14, 2023, 07:04 by MTT
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cantonjohn
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16 MB Posts: 26 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #29 on: February 14, 2023, 11:21
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Quote Perhaps you haven't expanded the widow to show channels that give the channel title? Yes, you’re right. I didn’t see that. But as you say, it just shows ‘BBC’ which is not great. I’ve got a solution whereby I make separate ‘.pls’ files for each station. And then I created different desktop images for each station. I then put an AppleScript for each station in my Apple Menu, which: 1. Opens the .pls (ie the BBC Radio One pls) 2. Sets the Desktop wallpaper image to the correct image, ie BBC-Radio-One logo. This is done using Decor, because on its own System 7 can only do patterns on the desktop. Decor is well supported by AppleScript
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