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massi13
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on: September 05, 2012, 19:30
Hi, my quadra after a month that i don't use, doesn't start: after the typical music, the monitor remain grey without nothing on it and the disk make some strange sounds. I made a video about the quadra but i don't know how to show us. If i switch the reset button appears a black image with sad fave and the code: 0000000F 0000000D or 0000000D 0000000F i don't remember. What is the problem? Hd is damaged? Max |
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #1 on: September 05, 2012, 23:56
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0000000F/0000000D is the Sad Mac all clear code. It indicates that the Mac has passed all of its post diagnostics and has ran into trouble reaching the boot stage. This can be caused by a failure in the boot devices floppy/CD/hard drive has failed, or the boot sector on the device is too corrupt to be readable. If this has occurred with the hard drive, you can try booting from a CD or Floppy. If you boot from either of those, you can use Disk Utility to check the condition of the hard drive. Sometimes this error has been traced back to a bad PRAM battery. The only long term solution for this would be to replace the battery. A temporary work around is to leave the machine powered on for 5 to 15 minutes then do a restart. bill
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massi13
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64 MB Posts: 83
Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 09:26
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The PRAM battery was dead, so i replace with another one but i have the sane problem.. I never change the PRAM battery for years, but i don't know it is a problem. Today i'll try another time, but i have a doubt: in fact the battery i bought the battery one year ago, i hope is non dead... Max
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massi13
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64 MB Posts: 83
Reply #3 on: September 06, 2012, 10:09
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How can i boot from floppy? i try to use original disk tools floppy but the monitor of the Quadra remains grey. i have to tap any keyboard combination? Max
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #4 on: September 08, 2012, 13:23
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If the floppy drive is in working order and the floppy disk is readable, a Mac should start from it automatically without any need for holding down special keys. If the hard drive is completely not working, it may be preventing startup. You can unplug the hard drive and see if the computer will then start from the floppy. bill
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massi13
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64 MB Posts: 83
Reply #5 on: September 09, 2012, 18:14
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I started the Quadra from the floppy unplugging the hd. The Mac starts. I used the floppy "Disk Tools" original for Macintosh Quadra 610 and 650. i launch Disk First Aid after reconnecting the HD but it isn't recognised, the hd makes strange noises but doesn't start... Is it broken for you? I have to replace it? how can i do for the data i have on it? Max
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 13:54
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It appears to me that your internal hard drive is bad and needs to be replaced. If the hard drive is as old as the Quadra it has lasted a long time. On old hard drives the failure is often mechanical. The bearings often end up failing. Somethings that people have tried to get the old drives working are: Give the drive a good solid slap with your hand. Run the drive upside down. Put the drive in the freezer for a time and start the drive after is is ice cold. If you can find a replacement drive and get your Quadra up and running you can place the troublesome drive in an external case and try and access it from there. Sometimes Disk Warrior or Norton Utilities will provide acesses to a drive that Apple's disk tools can not. bill
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massi13
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64 MB Posts: 83
Reply #7 on: September 10, 2012, 18:30
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Thanks Bill, i will try to start the hard drive in on these ways. But if i would find a compatible HD, what type of hd i need? and what maximum size can i use with system 7 installed? Max
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #8 on: September 13, 2012, 14:07
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To replace the hard drive you need a SCSI hard drive. The easiest fit would be a 50 pin drive, but 68(?) and 80 pin drives are often more common. Those drive will work with an adaptor. SCSI is an older technology. I am not sure what limits there are to drive size. A google search will most likely provide an answer to that. Generally speaking almost any SCSI drive you find will work just fine. bill
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massi13
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64 MB Posts: 83
Reply #9 on: September 20, 2012, 11:23
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http://annunci.ebay.it/annunci/scheda-scsi-pci-9-vecchi-hard-disk-scsi-in-blocco/32727108 The last HD of the list can work on a Mac? it is an scsi 50 pin IBM, so i'm not sure it can be work, even if i try to formatted it. Max
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #10 on: September 20, 2012, 14:20
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The 50 pin SCSI drive should work just fine. It should not need any adaptor to work. The other drives listed should work as well, however they will need an adaptor to work. bill
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massi13
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64 MB Posts: 83
Reply #11 on: September 21, 2012, 15:26
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Nothing to do... The seller wants only for the 50 pin too much in my opinion... I will find another one... Thanks Bill! Max
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massi13
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64 MB Posts: 83
Reply #12 on: September 21, 2012, 15:41
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http://item.mobileweb.ebay.it/viewitem?itemId=190711922729 This one can work even if has a DCHS-04F hp24 firmware? Max
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #13 on: September 24, 2012, 20:19
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I do not know anything about the firmware/ROM. Every 50 pin SCSI drive I have every tried has been able to work with the Mac OS. bill
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Tristan
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8 MB Posts: 9
Reply #14 on: June 20, 2014, 20:26
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Maybe if you, reset the p ram ( command+control+p+r).
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