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crtolson
4 MB  Posts: 6 
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on: September 13, 2009, 18:56
I've see some long strings on upgrading to 7.5.3 (in my case from 7.5.1) which is what I need to do on my old Performa 6200CD (with ethernet card) so I can access the SCSI port and thus, data on 20 or so EZ 135MB Syquest disks. <I understand from an Apple forum that in the chooser of 7.5.3 I can enter an IP address across my ethernet to connect to my iBook. If that isn't correct, I've been led down the wrong path.> My dilemma: I have downloaded the 19 OS 7.5.3 images and learned how to burn an older HFS CD with those on it. That CD is fully recognized on the Performa. (whew) The Performa 6200 will not allow those OS files to be copied to that HD. However, I DO have a USB floppy drive and I have copied other files from my iBook to the Performa on HD floppies so that is working. I think the main questions remaining I hope someone can help with are: 1) where/how can I create a bootable floppy (assuming that's what I need to boot and run the CD resident upgrade) and 2) where may I find a .sea of Stuffit expander? The .hqx I find for stuffit expander requires the expander in the first place(catch 22). My desire is to get access to the SCSI data but I would like to access the web using iCab or some other browser if possible and I'm pretty sure I'll need to unstuff files along the way. By the way, this Performa has only been connect to the web via dial up and so long ago I have no memory of how I did that. Thank you so much for your help. crt |
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crtolson
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4 MB Posts: 6
Reply #1 on: September 14, 2009, 00:56
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One way or another I seem to have figured out using Disk Copy that was on the Performa how to mount an image of Disk 01 of the 7.5.3 upgrade set off the old HFS CD I created. The installation ran apparently great. The whole purpose of this was to be able to connect the performa to an iBook running 10.4.11 and I was told in an Apple post that through the 7.5.3 Chooser>Appleshare I could enter the IP address of my iBook if file sharing, etc. were active on both computers. Turns out there isn't a IP button in the Chooser of the 7.5.3 as suggested. I have an ethernet card on the Performa that was used for dial up access 14 years ago. Does anyone have links or information that could take me down the final steps to connect these two computers? Ultimately, I'm trying to access the SCSI port on the Performa to burn CDs from about 20 Syquest EZ135MB disks. (I already refreshed my memory on the trials of SCSI termination, etc. and I can access that data :-) Thank you Curtis
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Lichen Software
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128 MB Posts: 252 
Reply #2 on: September 14, 2009, 01:05
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Have you gone into control panels and turned on TCP/IP? Is TCP/IP going out through the same port as AppleTalk? If you do not have TCP/IP going, your Performa has no idea what an IP address is. Also, on your iBook, turn on AppleTalk in the networking section. Then when you select AppleShare in Chooser on your Performa, if your router supports AppleTalk, the iBook will just show up without an IP address. HTH Dave McQueen
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #3 on: September 14, 2009, 01:11
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Make sure you have all the updates to your system software version here: http://main.system7today.com/updates.html
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crtolson
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4 MB Posts: 6
Reply #4 on: September 14, 2009, 02:03
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Dave- I guess it's been too long working OSX and Windows XP issues but I'm a bit lost with your suggestions. First, I'm trying to plug my ethernet cable into my Performa ethernet card on one side and my iBook ethernet port at the other end with no router. What in the control panels will allow me to turn on TCP/IP? I have turned off all extensions with extension manager except for the OS. Is there perhaps something off I should turn on because I don't see anything in the control panel that allows me to do that. Dan- I just loaded the upgrades based on the 19 files coming off the Apple site. Getting those to run took me most of the weekend because I don't have any means to connect to the Performa except burning CDs with the Mac Standard HFS and opening them with the Disk Copy on the performa. Is there a particular piece of the system I should be looking for that may not have loaded? Thanks a bunch to both of you!!
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #5 on: September 14, 2009, 02:34
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Well, anything network related. So anything OpenTransport or AppleShare.
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Lichen Software
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128 MB Posts: 252
Reply #6 on: September 14, 2009, 04:18
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To get to the control panels go Apple(top left of screen)-> Control Panels Once there look for: Extensions Manager AppleTalk Sharing Setup TCP/IP Users and Groups If they are there, those control panels are on. I am on 7.6, so the controls may be different. If you do not see an extensions manager, skip through the next part and go to the bottom. In extensions manager you want to turn on anything network related in both control panels and extensions. That will enable the machine's basic functionality for networking. In the control panels section look for: AppleTalk File sharing Monitor Sharing Set up Users and Groups TCP/IP Turn them all on Keep scrolling down to Extensions and look for: Apple built In Ethernet or what ever driver you have for your ethernet card AppleShare Ethernet Built In Ehertalk Phase 2 File sharing Extension Network Extension All extensions that say Open Transport or Open Tpt You then have to reboot the machine. I cannot remember at what version Extension Manager was introduced. If you have no extension manager, then look in the Syster folder for two folders Control Panels Disabled and Extensions Disabled. Look for the control panels and extensions that are missing in these two folders. Move them to the Control Panels Folder and the Extensions Folder respectively to enable them. Again, you will have to restart after this. You say that you are trying to connect directly using and ethernet cable. I am not sure what is involved here. You may need a crossover cable for this. Perhaps someone with more smarts in this regard can chime in. I am guessing that if you are going directly from machine to machine with no router, once you make sure your control panels are there and are configured, you will have to assign a manual fixed IP address to the Performa in the TCP/IP copntrol panel as there is no router to assign an address using dynamic host control (DHCP)
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gsteemso
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8 MB Posts: 10
Reply #7 on: September 25, 2009, 01:05
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You also need to make sure you are using a “crossover” type Ethernet cable. If you use one of the normal straight-through kind, intended for connecting to a router or switch, both ends will be trying to talk on the same wires, resulting in “It ain’t workin’ boss!”
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crtolson
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4 MB Posts: 6
Reply #8 on: October 04, 2009, 14:21
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Taken a steep learning curve but I'm running my performa/iBook ethernet through a router. I can finally see my iBook in the Chooser of the Performa!! (Can't see Performa on iBook) My hopefully final hurdle is to overcome the username/password the Chooser requests on the Performa to log in to the iBook. The names on the iBook I use seem to be too long (i.e. like the password). What am I missing in setting up the iBook so the OS 7 system can log into it? I am slightly familiar with setting up users in OS 10. but don't have any recall of what the requirements are in OS 7. I'm almost there (I hope)!! Thank you for the help.
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crtolson
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4 MB Posts: 6
Reply #9 on: October 06, 2009, 20:17
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Finally got the upgraded 7.5.5 to log into the iBook running 10.4.11 by connecting the ethernet cables to a router I still had around. figured out the passwords need to be short for 7.5.5 (I used 5 characters and it worked). I'm happy to say that I was able to transfer 4 of about 20 Syquest SCSI EZ 135MB discs full of data to the iBook. Unfortunately, the EZ drive will no longer mount on the Performa and I haven't done anything to the system!! I've tried minimizing the number of extensions, maximizing the extensions, different SCSI addresses and now I'm stuck. I can connect the computers but the whole goal was to get the old data onto CDs and DVDs and now I can't get the SCSI to mount. I now remember how frustrating SCSI (and extensions) was in the 90's. Two questions: 1) Now my Performa is freezing on startup with my last selection of extensions. Does anyone remember how to start up with minimum extensions on? 2) Does anyone have tricks to mount SCSI devices? Besides the SCSI addresses it seems like there were 3rd party solutions to force mount (like disk utility?)? Thank you for all the networking assistance. Hopefully a little extension and SCSI advice is all I now need. Curtis
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Lichen Software
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128 MB Posts: 252
Reply #10 on: October 07, 2009, 01:41
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Youmay need SCSI Probe or other mounting utility to search the SCSI bus for your device. I think SCSI Probe, TechTools lite or Anubus Utilities will do it. On the SCSI drive, check to see what SCSI number it has. It should show somewhere on the back of the drive. I am assuming that this is the only thing on your exterior SCSI bus. Try to make sure that it is not 1 or 0 or I think 6. I forget right now how many items a SCSI bus will hold, but I think it is somewhere in the neighbourhood of 6. There are numbers reserved for you machine itself and for the internal hard drive. Make sure that you have a terminator on the end of your SCSI bus line. This is placed on the other SCSI connection on your drive.
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ovalking
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128 MB Posts: 199
Reply #11 on: October 08, 2009, 16:20
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Hold shift at startup to disable extensions. Hold space at startup to open the extension manager. Did you connect to the iBook using Appleshare IP in the end? I wonder because that functionality is not on the 7.5.5 machines I have here. (It is on my 8.1 machine). Re. crossover cables, you don't need one if the iBook has gigabit ethernet (which transmits/receives on all pairs). For mounting SCSI devices I like Mt. Everything. G.
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