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napabar
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on: August 29, 2009, 03:27
Hey guys, I have some bad news. I just upgraded to Snow Leopard today, and the Classic Mac OS can no longer connect or share to it. I'm using a fully updated Mac OS 9 Mac, and I get an incompatible AFP error message. And yes, I'm using IP, not Appletalk. Looks like the last vestige of AppleShare and Pre-OS X has been eliminated. |
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napabar
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16 MB Posts: 19
Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 02:09
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On the Plus side, 10.6's built in screen sharing seems much more stable with OS9VNC. Under 10.5, it usually disconnected after a minute or so. I have not seen this with Snow Leopard.
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 14:40
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The upgrade to Snow Leopard has left me behind. NetaTalk is an open source AppleTalk clone. A version is available for install on OS X. I have no idea if it works or how well it works, but it may provide an option for file sharing using AFP. NetaTalk for OS X is available here bill
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dajaka
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1 MB Posts: 1
Reply #3 on: September 08, 2009, 04:55
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Timbuktu Pro 4.0.6 will work via TCP on a Mac running system 7 to allow file transfers to and from a Mac running Snow Leopard (with the newest version of Timbuktu running on it).
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napabar
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16 MB Posts: 19
Reply #4 on: September 08, 2009, 05:23
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Quote from: "dajaka" Timbuktu Pro 4.0.6 will work via TCP on a Mac running system 7 to allow file transfers to and from a Mac running Snow Leopard (with the newest version of Timbuktu running on it). No need for all that. Snow Leopard shares over FTP. Any Mac going back to the Plus can use Fetch and retrieve files. I was lamenting the end of Appleshare, which is easier, faster, better.....
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DaveRhodes
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32 MB Posts: 43 
Reply #5 on: September 08, 2009, 10:26
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There's probably some way to fenangle it, like there was a way to get System 7 to talk to Leopard with some prodding. Although I'm already used to using my iBook running Panther as a bridge between 7.61 and 10.5, so I guess I'll just keep doing that.
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mycatisbigfoot
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8 MB Posts: 8
Reply #6 on: October 01, 2009, 15:59
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I know there is a porgram called dave, or somthing like that, It runs in mac os 9 and its a smb networking thingy, I know osx has smb
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napabar
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16 MB Posts: 19
Reply #7 on: October 03, 2009, 02:00
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Quote from: "mycatisbigfoot" I know there is a porgram called dave, or somthing like that, It runs in mac os 9 and its a smb networking thingy, I know osx has smb SMB doesn't preserve the resource fork. If one doesn't care about that, much easier and cheaper to just use FTP.
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napabar
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16 MB Posts: 19
Reply #8 on: November 11, 2009, 00:40
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Hey guys, I have some partial good news. I updated to 10.6.2 last night. One of the fixes listed was "compatibility with third-party AFP servers". I fired up my 6500 with OS 9.2.2 and was able to connect to it from Snow Leopard with full read/write access! I can confirm this work with 7.6.1 and ShareWay IP as well. On the downside, neither OS 9.2.2 or 7.6.1 were able to connect to Snow Leopard as a client. At least it's something.
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defor
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16 MB Posts: 29
Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 17:56
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for reference, the 10.6.2 update doesn't affect classic appleshare at all- the patch they're referring to had to do with the fact that afptcp volumes have a id attached to them - as it was, apple for some reason restricted the supported id numbers with the release of 10.6.0 to a fixed set that only supported apple official servers. Novell, for example, made a patch to work around this in their AFPTCP.NLM for traditional netware, but there's no support for classic file serving at all in 10.6.x as it stands, and I don't expect for any to be added. As suggested, I'd look to the netatalk project for a possible solution, or jsut stick to connecting TO your sys7 mac from within 10.6.0 This affects ALL versions of classic MacOS, btw, not just 7.x!
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napabar
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16 MB Posts: 19
Reply #10 on: November 21, 2009, 21:58
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Quote from: "defor" for reference, the 10.6.2 update doesn't affect classic appleshare at all- the patch they're referring to had to do with the fact that afptcp volumes have a id attached to them - as it was, apple for some reason restricted the supported id numbers with the release of 10.6.0 to a fixed set that only supported apple official servers. Novell, for example, made a patch to work around this in their AFPTCP.NLM for traditional netware, but there's no support for classic file serving at all in 10.6.x as it stands, and I don't expect for any to be added. Define "Classic Appleshare". I think you're getting confused with AppleTalk. 10.6 broke connecting to Classic Mac AFP servers using TCP/IP, and from Classic Macs with TCP/IP connecting to a 10.6 machine. 10.6.2 restores the ability to connect to Classic Mac AFP servers using TCP/IP, just not the other way around. It's a fact, and I've proven it right here in my computer room. Thanks for playing.
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napabar
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16 MB Posts: 19
Reply #11 on: November 21, 2009, 22:05
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Never mind. I re-read your post. We're not in disagreement. My bad.
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 03:35
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The easiest solution so far for me is to just have a Mac OS 9 or Mac OS X Tiger (or lower) server on permanent intermediary status. Connect to it from both the System 7 and Snow Leopard systems. Seems to work fine thus far, including preserving resource forks and such.
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macadri
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4 MB Posts: 4
Reply #13 on: February 21, 2010, 19:27
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Hi, what about Snow Leopard writing on HFS volume. I use Zip cartridge for sharing files between a Macbook under 10.5 and a 5300 under 7.6, but since 10.6 writing on HFS format is no longer avialable... Any of you guys have any idea how to write on Mac Os Standard format from Snow ? Using other machine (PC/Linux/Mac<snow) as "bridge" is a solution, but if there any other way...
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