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iamdigitalman
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on: June 13, 2009, 05:45

Hi all. I was given a Power Macintosh 6100/66. Fantastic machine. 72mb of RAM, 2gb HD, dead 2xCD-Rom, but I popped in a 12x apple drive. I also popped in a DOS card for it, making it a windows box as well. It is connected to a windows laptop, which is sharing it's wireless connection so I can access the internet on it. In fact, I am writing this on it right now, under glorious System 7.6.1 and Cyberdog 2.0. I can't get it to send files I downloaded on the 6100 to the XP machine, or pull things off the XP machine. I know Appleshare was in Windows prior to XP, but stupid M$ took it out for no reason. I think I have 3 options here:



1. FInd a SMB/Windows sharing client that runs on System 7.

2. Find a Appleshare server for Windows XP.

3. Skip either of the above, and set up FTP. This would require getting client software for system 7. IIRC, XP already has a built in server.



In all cases, the software would have to be free, and low memory users.



I tried dave for number 1, but at least 3.0 requires CarbonLib, which = Mac OS 8.1 or later.



any solutions?



Thanks.
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Reply #1 on: June 13, 2009, 12:49

Look for Beaujour Services for XP.  I would love to tell you where to get it, but it just showed up on my machine one day.  I think it may have come from downloading and installing Quicktime Player.

Anyway, once I had it, I was able to connect to my local talk Laserwriter printer that is running off a starmax via LocalTalk Bridge. So it may be that it will also let you talk to the file system.

I have Dave 2, but right now I could not tell you what the minimum requirements are for it.  I'll try to check later today.

Alternately, you talk of having a DOS on Mac card or similar.  Connect to the XP while running in Windows on the 6100.  At one time I had a DOS on Mac running in a 7100 and Dave 2 also running, all in a company environment.  On the network I showed up as two computers DaveMac and DaveWin and it only broke down when I tried to talk to myself.  At that point the 7100 went " Wait a minute - I know that there is really only one machine and one wire in." and it would crash.

I was running two monitors at the time and I also had Soft PC (Windows 3.11) running.  People in the office found it really confusing to see Win 95 on one monitor and either Win 3.11 or Mac on the other .... Kind of fun.

HTH

Dave
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Reply #2 on: June 13, 2009, 14:46

You mention using Cyberdog on the 6100. Cyberdog has a built in FTP client. If you have an FTP server running on the XP machine, you can access it using using ftp://(ip address of xp box).

Older versions of Fetch are also good ftp clients for Mac OS 7.6. If you are looking for an ftp server for MacOS 7.6, then an older version of AppleShare IP would work for that.

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Reply #3 on: June 14, 2009, 03:28

Thanks for all the help everyone.

I forgot Cyberdog has built in FTP, as when I typed "FTP" in cyberdog and when the topic was submitted, it showed it as a link!! Pretty slick.

Also, Windows 95 is loaded on the DOS side of the machine, in a 500mb hard drive file. Ideally, it would have both a C and D with the max 1013mb, but I only have a 2gb HD. Oh, and the windows side does not seem to be picking up the on board ethernet hardware, even during a non plug and pray scan. I don't know if apple ever wrote windows drivers for that or not, but I know until I installed the PC software 1.6.4 (I was running 1.0.3 off the floppies I found in the accessory box), I did not have use of the CD-ROM in windows. Still can't boot of the CD-ROM, but at least I can make a custom MS-DOS boot floppy with the Apple drivers so I can boot a CD from DOS.

So, it looks like FTP is my best option. However, I like DAVE the best, as I have had the most experience with it. Please, check the system requirements for Dave 2, Lichen Software. I would appreciate it.
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Reply #4 on: June 14, 2009, 03:53

The DOS Card and the Mac share the same networking hardware, but they can not share the same ip address. It is probably easiest to turn off DHCP and give each side their own fixed address.

FAQ for PC Comatibility cards will probably answer most questions. There is a link in the FAQ for PC Setup 2.1.7, which will also add some enhancements and improvements when using a DOS card.

I have used the Apple PC cards, but currently I have an Orange Micro 530 DOS card installed.

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Reply #5 on: June 14, 2009, 15:01

Hi Iamdigitalman

Specs for DAVE 2.1

68020 processor or better
Mac OS 7.5 or later with 8 MB RAM
MacTCP or Open Transport TCP/IP V1.1 or better
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