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DaveRhodes
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on: September 24, 2008, 13:14
Recently I've been having fun adventures in MacIP land... at least, I've been trying to. I've got a big ol' Appletalk network between a Color Classic, a Classic, an SE, a Plus and an ImageWriter II, and I'd like to get all those ethernetless Macs online. All those Macs ('cept the Color Classic) are running 6.08, with the CC at 7.1. So I came across a Kinetics Fastpath 4, which I'm pretty darn sure can do KIP, which is just Kinetics' term for MacIP, right? And MacIP is IP over DDP, and then the MacIP server decapsulates the IP and fires it off down the enthernet cable, right? Ok, so assuming I'm right about that, now all I have to do is configure everything properly, which the Fastpath 4 configuration tool doesn't make easy. I figure all I really have to do in order to configure it properly is read the ream of documentation that probably came with the thing, but I have none and can't find much of it online. Anyone have experience with this thing? As an alternative, I used to share the ImageWriter II through an AsanteTalk bridge to my newer Macs (but ever since I got the Time Capsule, that's been shaky... does the Time Capsule fail to route Appletalk?), and I still have the AsanteTalk. I also have an available linux box with MacGate installed. Anyone have experience with that? If the answer is no to the last two questions, then here's a third: Does anyone have any experience at all with getting Macs online over an Appletalk network? |
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gillham
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16 MB Posts: 30
Reply #1 on: September 26, 2008, 23:44
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I've been using MacIP with a Cisco router as the MacIP server. I don't have the Macs (or router) powered up at the moment, but I could if there is something you wanted me to test. (like tcpdump of the packets from the client) I use a localtalk / ethernet bridge (designed for printers) to get my non ethernet macs connected. I was using the localtalk bridge extension for a while and it worked ok. Your AsanteTalk sounds like the same thing. I think mine is a Farallon, but can't remember right now. I ended up getting a scsi ethernet for my Classic II so I don't really depend on localtalk at this point. There is a router emulator called DynaMIPS that runs on Linux and might be used to gateway MacIP. I'll see if I can spend some time with that this weekend. Can you grab some screen shots of your FastPath configuration? Or post some specific questions about the configuration?
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gillham
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16 MB Posts: 30
Reply #2 on: September 26, 2008, 23:46
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Regarding the AsanteTalk / TimeCapsule issue, I forgot to mention. My Farallon (I think) only really works on a 10 meg hub that I have. It doesn't like my Cisco 10/100 autonegotiating switch at all. Also has some problems with cheapo 10/100 switches. My 10 meg Netgear hub works fine. You might be running into a problem where the AsanteTalk and the gigabit port on the TimeCapsule are flapping.
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DaveRhodes
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32 MB Posts: 43
Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 20:08
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As far as the AsanteTalk 10/100 switch problem goes, I have a pair of Linksys switches I use that are then routed by the Time Capsule. Those switches have successfully negotiated with the AsanteTalk before, and the last time I connected my PB 3400 to the same switch the AsanteTalk is connected to, I could see my Appletalk Imagewriter II in the 3400's chooser. Strangely enough, my current-gen iMac can't see any Appletalk printers, even when it's plugged into the exact same ethernet cable the 3400 used. That probably has to do more with Leopard though. The disconnect seems to be the Time Capsule... maybe I'm wrong though. I'll have to check further. As for the fastpath's configuration, I wouldn't know where to start. The configurator's got a bunch of different windows to configure this or that, and I've got as much of it set to "auto" as I can (after my attempts at setting it manually failed). In order to configure that properly, I'm probably gonna have to talk to someone who's configured a Fastpath before. This Cisco router emulation seems like the best route to go then. I'll look into it. In the mean time, I've also been investing in EN/SCs and PDS slot ethernet cards to try to bypass the problem.
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gillham
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16 MB Posts: 30
Reply #4 on: October 02, 2008, 20:38
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If you can do a screen capture of a few of the configuration dialogs I would be glad to look at them and see if they make any sense to me. I'm a networking person by trade. I booted a virtual router under dynamips and was able to configure it as a MacIP server. I didn't get around to actually testing it with a real Mac though. 
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