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passthejoe
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on: June 30, 2008, 19:26
I've been looking everywhere for the MacX software, which allows pre-OS X Macs to run an X session over SSH from a Linux/Unix box. I've been using MacSSH, which works great for a console session, but I'd really like to see how well I can do X in System 7.6.1. I could be wrong, but I believe the newest version of MacX for System 7 is MacX 2.0. Older versions include 1.2 and 1.5. As I say, I've been looking for MacX for awhile but have had no luck. |
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #1 on: July 02, 2008, 05:46
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MacX was part of A/UX and I was never aware of it as an separate application for any other MacOS. Tenon Systems had/has a product called MachX, which did enable the X window system for the Classic Mac OS. bill
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CyberMonkey
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16 MB Posts: 28
Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 05:53
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You mean this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacX
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 07:51
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I don't have page for it, but I've experimented a little with MI/X for PPC Macs, which did work, and you can download here: http://download.system7today.com/mixppc.sit
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gillham
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16 MB Posts: 30
Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 20:09
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MacX 1.2 (from an A/UX 3.0.1 install) launches on System 7.1 but generates a message similar to "Communications Toolbox missing". If I put the basic connectivity set from apple.com in my System Folder it starts and says roughly "Communications Toolbox not working, will not accept connections until then". I can get the precise error messages if someone is interested. I will also try running it on 7.6.1 in case more of the communications toolbox stuff is there and working.
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gillham
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16 MB Posts: 30
Reply #5 on: August 15, 2008, 21:01
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To followup on this I will say I was dumb.  I realized there was a MacTCP Tool in the A/UX system folder. It works fine under 7.1 and 7.6.1I must say MacX 1.2 isn't too bad, even on my AWS80. It worked a lot better than Mix68k. Mix is X11R6 based, but hardly worked at all on my AWS80 and was buggy. I haven't tried the PPC version yet. Also I'm using 8bit mode since that is all the onboard video supports. That might not be its best mode. Alas I have figured out that my AWS80 didn't ship with A/UX so until I can find a real copy I can't really use this anyway. I'm glad to know it works though, hopefully I'll run into a copy of MacX for sale or even better A/UX. Oh and to address the original question of using ssh. I tried out MacSSH with the "forward X" checked and it worked ok with XFree86 libraries (on my NetBSD box), but wasn't so happy with X.org based stuff with Ubuntu on my MythTV box. Both worked fine directly connecting, but ssh tunneling didn't work at all with Ubuntu. I'll try some of this again with a PowerMac and MixPPC at some point here.
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passthejoe
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8 MB Posts: 9
Reply #6 on: June 11, 2010, 01:34
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Just downloaded the mixppc.sit - I'll have to fire up the Powerbook 1400 and see what I can do with it. The PB 1400 is still a nice hunk of hardware after all these years quality-wise. If I could get credible X Window use of the PB 1400, that would be great. It's been awhile since I had an ssh server set up on my Linux/Unix boxes, so I'll have to do that first.
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gillham
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16 MB Posts: 30
Reply #7 on: October 14, 2010, 01:20
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Another option for running X on an older Mac is running vnc server (apt-get install vnc4server) instead. It can be pretty fast and you could probably skip ssh port forwarding if your Linux box is on your secure local network. You can get a normal Gnome desktop to run under vnc server and just use a vnc client on the old mac. All of the hard work will be done on the Linux system and if your vnc client crashes you just reconnect. With the following in ~/.vnc/xstartup you get a full Gnome desktop and selecting "logout" from the menu actually shuts the vnc server down. #!/bin/sh unset SESSION_MANAGER /usr/bin/gnome-session /bin/sleep 2 /usr/bin/vnc4server -kill $DISPLAY # # end-of-file #
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breetie
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16 MB Posts: 19 
Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 07:06
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Quote from: "gillham" --Another option for running X on an older Mac is running vnc server (apt-get install vnc4server) instead. *sniff* All this talk of linux and Mac OS 7...it just brings a nostalgic tear to my eye. *drip**sniff*
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chal4oye
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1 MB Posts: 1
Reply #9 on: January 06, 2014, 07:53
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Generates a message similar to "Communications Toolbox missing". If I put the basic connectivity set from apple.com in my System Folder it starts and says roughly "Communications Toolbox not working, will not accept connections until then". ----------- GuL:
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