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Reply #15 on: June 19, 2008, 15:05

Ok, burning an HFS CD worked beautifully. I was able to install both the 7.5.2 to 7.5.3 and the 7.5.3 to 7.5.5 System updates, as well as the OpenTransport update. However, my original System 7 installation was in Dutch, and the upgrades are in English. So now I have a half-dutch, half-english system, which is kind of annoying because all the system folders have been changed to the english versions.

I'm currently trying to get the machines to talk again, but in the file sharing tutorial (part 1), I'm stuck on connecting to the Leopard machine through the chooser - I can't activate AppleTalk. When I try to, it says "Please make sure you are connected to an AppleTalk network". I'm now trying using Shareway IP.
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Reply #16 on: June 19, 2008, 15:37

I am now stuck once again, because everything that even remotely involves connecting to the System 7 machine from Leopard requires AppleTalk to be active, which I cannot activate. I currently have the System 7 machine connected directly to the Leopard machine using a standard-issue LAN cable.

For part 1, when I try to select AppleShare from the Chooser, it tells me "AppleShare requires AppleTalk. Please make sure that you are connected to an AppleTalk network." followed by a "AppleTalk cannot be opened.".

For part 2, when I try to start file sharing to have Shareway IP serve it over TCP/IP, I get "AppleTalk is currently off. You need to turn it on using the Chooser".

And when I go to the AppleTalk control panel, it asks me whether I want to turn AppleTalk on after closing the control panel. Sure, why not? I set it to connect via Ethernet, leave the node and network number at their defaults and close it, so that it would activate. It then presents me with "An error occured attempting to use Ethernet. Make sure your network connections are correct".

Same thing happens when I connect the System 7 machine through our router. I don't recall AppleTalk being this annoying before the 7.5.5 upgrade.
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Reply #17 on: June 19, 2008, 19:22

The only thing I can think of is to make sure you have the EtherTalk Phase 2 extension enabled in your Extensions folder. If you don't have it, you might be able to pull it from the 7.5.3 disc image Apple has up for download.
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Reply #18 on: June 20, 2008, 01:09

For some reason I don't understand my System folder has now been un-System-folder-ed. It no longer has the System folder icon, and neither do the Extensions, Contrl Panels, Preferences etc. folders. Thinking it might be a glitch, I rebooted the machine, which prompted me with the lovely "no boot disk found"-icon, complete with blinking question mark.

Thankfully I still have my original Dutch System 7.5.2 CD. After popping it in to the CD-ROM drive, it booted up from there automagically and allowed me to get into the OS and restore my System folder (which, amazingly, was possible by just renaming the old one and drag-and-dropping a fresh one from the CD).

So now, back on 7.5.2, I can indeed have AppleTalk enabled while not actually being connected to an AppleTalk network, unlike on System 7.5.5. This allowed me to enabled file sharing again, which should in turn allow Shareway IP to work the way I want it to. Ironically, Shareway IP requires at least System 7.5.5.

So once again, I am utterly stuck.
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Reply #19 on: June 23, 2008, 05:36

Have you tried clean-installing 7.5.3 and then upgrading that to 7.5.5? The issue might be caused by the Dutch/English conflict or something.
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Reply #20 on: June 23, 2008, 05:55

While dragging the system folder from the install CD will generally create a bootable disk, you are starting from a pretty minimal system. It may not include all the assorted special parts needed to make your particular hardware function.

You best bet would be do a fresh install. As an alternative you can run disk first aide from the installer CD, which might correct any disk problems. You would then be able to restore your original install.

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Reply #21 on: June 24, 2008, 12:43

After lots of further trying, my dad has decided that it's time to give it up and just continue working with Mac OS X forward. Thanks for your help everybody!
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Reply #22 on: June 24, 2008, 15:58

Well, don't give up yet... have you tried making an appleshare folder on OS X and connecting to it from 7.5.2? I forget exactly how to do this under Leopard, but I remember I was able to get my old LC 580 to talk to my Mac Mini using only Appleshare from the Chooser.
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