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katarchaea
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on: March 16, 2008, 04:36
Does anyone have any ideas how to connect from my old 68k Powerbooks (170 and 190) using System 7.6.1 and 8.1 to my iBook and MacBook running Leopard? I have both machines set up according to the Leopard tutorial on S7Today. I can bring up the Leopard file server in the chooser using IP address, it accepts my password, but when I select the drive I wish to mount, and I've tried all of them, the 68k powerbook hangs. Both machines worked fine connecting to Tiger. I am using Appleshare Client 3.8.7 (from Macintosh Manager 2.2) on both powerbooks, and already tried downgrading to Appleshare 3.8.3 with the same result. On the positive side, ShareWay IP works fine in the other direction. Any suggestions? |
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Minimalist
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128 MB Posts: 186
Reply #1 on: March 16, 2008, 04:49
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I believe Dan has a very thorough howto available right here on System 7 Today that will help you do exactly what it is that you're wanting to do.
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katarchaea
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4 MB Posts: 5
Reply #2 on: March 16, 2008, 05:25
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Thanks for your reply Minimalist: I've already followed the procedure laid out at: http://main.system7today.com/articles/leopard/tutorial1/index.html My powerbooks still freeze after I click "OK" in Step 4. Any ideas?
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #3 on: March 16, 2008, 06:58
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Have you installed all updates found here, especially AppleShare and OpenTransport? You can also perhaps try restarting your Leopard computer, restarting your router, and try booting from your PowerBook with all extensions disabled except those necessary for what you want to do. As a last resort, try performing a clean install of System 7 (installing a new copy of System 7 is often a pretty quick process) and do the updates again and see if it works. You do not have to format your hard drive to do this, simply create a new folder titled "backup", drag everything in your hard drive into that folder, then insert your 7.6.x CD and choose "Perform Clean Installation" - it will perform a clean installation and leave your Backup folder, including the previous system folder, settings, and apps, untouched. Sometimes third party software, extensions, or control panels break fragile classic Mac functions. It should work just as described in the tutorial.
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katarchaea
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4 MB Posts: 5
Reply #4 on: March 17, 2008, 01:22
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Thanks for the suggestions Dan. I tried a fresh install, and still froze up. Then I tried with nearly all extensions off, and the same result. I'm wondering if maybe it's an issue with 68k machines? I can still network the other way with Shareway IP, but nothing I've tried works with my old Powerbooks. I tried both my PB 170 with 7.6.1, my PB 190 with 7.6.1 and the 190 with a fresh install of 8.1, and all are responding the same way. The only issues I can think of might be that I'm using a WaveLAN wireless card in the 190, and a Ethernet/SCSI connection in the 170, and have no alternate network arrangements to test. If you have a chance to test networking out on a 68k machine, let me know if it works! cheers, Roy
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #5 on: March 17, 2008, 02:38
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I have done this on 68k systems, including the Quadra 900 I recently sold on eBay, so I can verify that it does work on 68ks.
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katarchaea
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4 MB Posts: 5
Reply #6 on: March 23, 2008, 22:55
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Quote from: "dpaanlka" I have done this on 68k systems, including the Quadra 900 I recently sold on eBay, so I can verify that it does work on 68ks. I found the following text in the Appleshare 3.8.3 and 3.8.8 documentation online: "If the Chooser freezes after you click the OK button in the volume dialog box, try disabling the Apple Menu Options control panel." This seems to be the behaviour I'm encountering. I tried disabling the Apple Menu Options but no joy. How much memory did your Quadra 900 have? I'm just wondering if it might be a memory issue! cheers
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wjs2
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2 MB Posts: 3
Reply #7 on: May 22, 2008, 15:18
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I got past the freeze issue with disabling the apple menu. I can make trouble free connections with a quadra 900 to 10.4.11, but no luck with 10.5.x. I think I have all the latest networking components on 7.6.1. After password and volume selection, the chooser crashes out with an error message. Anyone have tips or tricks to get this last step to work on 10.5?
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #8 on: May 22, 2008, 16:06
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The best thing I can think of is to go through the standard trial and error routine with Extensions Manager, because with the default extensions + System 7 Today updates, all of my 68k systems work, even with Apple Menu Options. So I would imagine you may have an extension conflict or something going on.
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napabar
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16 MB Posts: 19
Reply #9 on: May 23, 2008, 16:51
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I've had a similar problem with my Color Classic and 10.5. Works just fine with 10.4, but the chooser quits and gives a type 1 error when I connect to Leopard. I've been using Shareway IP on the Color Classic to share it's files to 10.5, and that works great. Shareway IP also comes with a little program called AFP Engage. With this program, I'm able to mount drives from 10.5. It complains that there was an error, but mounts the drive anyway. Shareway IP is trail-ware, but the AFP Engage piece doesn't seem to expire after 10 days.
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wjs2
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2 MB Posts: 3
Reply #10 on: May 23, 2008, 17:07
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Quote from: "dpaanlka" The best thing I can think of is to go through the standard trial and error routine with Extensions Manager, because with the default extensions + System 7 Today updates, all of my 68k systems work, even with Apple Menu Options. So I would imagine you may have an extension conflict or something going on. Thanks for the encouragement. I've tried to get extensions down to the minimum. Still get Error 1 when selecting the 10.5.2 volume. Sure spent a lot of time on juggling extensions. No progress yet.
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #11 on: May 24, 2008, 03:51
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Have you restarted this 10.5.2 server recently?
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wjs2
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2 MB Posts: 3
Reply #12 on: May 28, 2008, 15:37
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Very up-to-date 7.6.1 still has program failed with Error 1 after the step of clicking on the volume to mount from 10.5.2. My 10.4.11 volume still shows up in the chooser, can be mounted that way, or with the IP address. 10.4.11 also asks for type of password - text or encrypted. 10.5.2 only asks for encrypted. Since 8.1 also fails with the same behavior, I'm suspicious that 10.5.2 has something different about the dhx handling - that it sends more information back to the 7.6.1 or 8.1 chooser than it can handle and this causes a crash. Failures with 10.5.2: Quadra 900 7.6.1 40M memory QUadra 650 8.1 Success with 10.5.2: 7500 8.6 Any chance 10.5.2 is sending back info on the volume size (900Gb) that is choking the older systems?
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 04:17
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Before the volume mounts it is necessary for the directory information to be passed. In the case of a 900GB volume that is going to take a long time over a 10T network. During this time you can expect your 68k Mac to be very unresponsive and perhaps even appear frozen. Is your 68k machine actually freezing or is is simply becoming unresponsive? For testing purposes you may wish to just create a smaller disk image (20MB) on the OS X machine. Mount that image, make sure it has permissions set so that it can be shared, then try and mount that volume on your 68k desktop. If you are trying to mount a volume that is mounted externally on the OS X Mac, make sure you have the box checked to "ignore permissions on this volume." I do not have 10.5 installed so perhaps nothing I have said matters. If you do sort out the matter and get it working, please make sure and let everyone know what it took to make it finally work. bill
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