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carpman
8 MB  Posts: 9 
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on: September 26, 2007, 21:31
Hi, I'm new to the list. Since I have a 1400cs I thought I'd chime in. I've got 64mb ram, a 6gb disk, a NuPowr 180Mhz 603ev (btw, if anyone has the drivers or a link to them for this, I'd be grateful), and a Orinoco Silver card. I'm running 9.1 but I might drop down to 8.6 (I need carbon). If you can't tell from the subject, I'm a programmer, and I just found my old MPW notes from back when I wrote code on a Duo 280c, so I might be making some new apps soon, who knows. |
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rlawson
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64 MB Posts: 92 
Reply #1 on: September 27, 2007, 01:06
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Hey great, I'm a programmer too. We should pester Dan to set up a page on the site for developers. I'm working with Dan on modifying a control panel called MultiResolutions so older macs can support the newer screen resolutions. Would be glad to share the source as well as what progress has been made so far. I must admit I'm a Unix developer so making my way slowly. If you have some os 7 development experience it would be very useful. Anyway, this is a really fun site/forum. Enjoy !
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #2 on: September 27, 2007, 04:56
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Welcome! Quote from: "carpman" I'm running 9.1 but I might drop down to 8.6 (I need carbon). So you don't actually have anything running System 7? What do you need carbon for? Is the 1400 your only Mac? Do you not have anything newer running OS X?
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carpman
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8 MB Posts: 9
Reply #3 on: September 27, 2007, 06:09
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Yes, this is currently my only mac. Everything else I have is running some form of Linux. I admit not running 7 might be a bit of a contradiction, but this site seems to be one of the last bastions for pre-osx mac os.
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Minimalist
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128 MB Posts: 186
Reply #4 on: September 27, 2007, 06:24
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One of the last bastions? There are a gazillion resources on the Internet for Classic Mac OS users. It's only one of two that I frequent, but there are certainly many others out there. AppleFritter is one such site that I don't frequent. The 68k Macintosh Liberation Army is the other that I do frequent. You'll find many others too, if you do a quick Google search. Jag, of Jag's House fame, runs a forum and a fairly comprehensive website that is lauded by many as an indispensable resource for users of older Macs.
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #5 on: September 29, 2007, 20:23
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Quote from: "Minimalist" AppleFritter is one such site that I don't frequent. The 68k Macintosh Liberation Army is the other that I do frequent. You'll find many others too, if you do a quick Google search. Jag, of Jag's House fame, runs a forum and a fairly comprehensive website that is lauded by many as an indispensable resource for users of older Macs. I actually found all those sites to be lacking in one specific area: Mac OS 7.6.x running on PowerPC Macs. That is why I actually originally created this site - to document all the stuff I had to figure out on my own. I found that to be a distinct, underserved market on the internet. So here we are today! What those sites do serve very well is pre-7.5.x and usually pre-PowerPC. That's why I don't touch very much on those subjects around here, as there isn't really much for me to add that my friends over there don't already cover, although maybe that will change one day when I get something running 7.1.x.
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Minimalist
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128 MB Posts: 186
Reply #6 on: September 30, 2007, 00:50
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Well, AppleFritter covers everything from the Apple I right up through the new Intel based Macs. The 68k Macintosh Liberation Army covers all of the old 68k Macintosh machines, software, and peripherals, as well as the early NuBus and PCI based Macintosh computers. But you're right, neither of them specialize in System 7.6. There's also an offshoot of the 68k Macintosh Liberation Army now too, called the PPC Macintosh Liberation Army. It covers the old NuBus and PCI based PPC Macintosh computers. It has a rather interesting interface as well. Jag's house -- which may not even be maintained or updated anymore -- pretty much deals with System 6 and early versions of System 7.
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #7 on: September 30, 2007, 03:52
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Quote from: "Minimalist" But you're right, neither of them specialize in System 7.6. It seemed at the time that most of the "classic" Mac world revolved around 68ks and the free versions of System 7 (7.0.x, 7.5.x) and free or very old software. Previous to System 7 Today, the common accepted knowledge was that any later PowerPC Mac users, such as 7500s and 8600s and stuff, should automatically be running Mac OS 9 without even considering System 7, and I like to think that we've changed that misconception for many people over the past two years, showing that Mac OS 7 is still a great choice even for people with very powerful systems who can run much higher versions. I now commonly run into references on other sites suggesting the use of Mac OS 7; a few years ago that was essentially nonexistent, and I even remember such suggestions being mocked. My point for this site is to make Mac OS 7 do as much modern, productive work as possible, while still "feeling" like Mac OS 7. Mac OS 7 is so lightweight and yet still so powerful, and is a certain sleekness and business-like feeling to the clean white GUI. Now the capabilities of System 7 are well documented thanks to contributions by everyone here. In a nutshell, we're not using System 7 solely because we have lousy systems that are stuck with it, but rather because we want to. I think that is our main difference compared to other sites.
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Minimalist
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128 MB Posts: 186
Reply #8 on: September 30, 2007, 05:34
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I agree. I use System 7 still because I appreciate its simplicity. It has its weaknesses and limitations, much more so than modern operating systems, but it still outperforms even state of the art platforms for certain tasks. Most importantly, System 7 is still a joy to use. And that's all that really matters to me. If it does what I want it to do, and it does it as well or better than a more capable OS/machine, and it remains fun to use, I will continue to use it. Damn the naysayers. Damn 'em, I say. 
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dmac
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4 MB Posts: 5
Reply #9 on: October 01, 2007, 23:00
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NuPower: http://www.newertech.net/tech_support/support_legacy.php http://www.versiontracker.com/macos/systemutilities/?by=releaseDate&dir=desc&pg=3
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carpman
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8 MB Posts: 9
Reply #10 on: October 01, 2007, 23:58
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Thanks dmac! I found that the other day, NuCache and the NuPower System Update seem to have done the trick.
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