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cr2032
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Reply #15 on: November 25, 2007, 10:20
Congratulation Dan !! Will you consider to hunt down the USB issue in system 7 in the near future ? Not sure if it is mission impossible if the firewire can be done
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dpaanlka
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Reply #16 on: November 25, 2007, 22:34
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Quote from: "cr2032" Will you consider to hunt down the USB issue in system 7 in the near future ? Not sure if it is mission impossible if the firewire can be done USB and FireWire share nothing in common. I'm confident enough that USB will not work under System 7 that I wouldn't bother trying anything with it.
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Xanathus
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Reply #17 on: December 15, 2007, 04:13
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When I bought my FantomDrives 120GB FireWire drive a while back, it came packaged with a limited version of Hard Disk SpeedTools. HDST installed some extensions in my System Folder (Mac OS 9.1 at the time) to load FireWire drives, USB drives and MO Cartridges. Perhaps that extension would work in System 7. This reminds me of SCSI cards of yesteryear requiring SCSI Probe (or some similar utility from ATTO, MicroNet, etc) to mount disks connected to the card. Without that utility, the Mac would never even try loading the disk driver from the hard drive. Perhaps this is similar. Also, I want to note that the Apple System Profiler in Mac OS 9 would always show me the USB cards I had installed, but it never shows FireWire cards or the devices attached to FW. At least this was the case on my 8500, 9500, and 9600, which don't have USB or FW built-in. Macs with built-in FW seems to always "see" FW in ASP. Go figure. I never had problems using FW; it was just annoying that ASP wouldn't acknowledge its existence. USB cards are supposed to be OHCI-compliant, though some older ones are not. I wonder if FireWire has something similar. If your Apple FireWire card is standards-compliant, then any other standards-compliant card should work. If the Apple card is proprietary, then that might be why the 2.3.3 drivers break it. (That might also be why it only works with DV -- a portion of the 1394 spec. More likely, though, is that v 2.3.3 is binded to some other part of OS 8.6 behind the scenes. Anyhow... Good luck with this. I find it fascinating.
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dpaanlka
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Reply #18 on: December 15, 2007, 16:56
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What extensions were these?
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blackangel
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Reply #19 on: January 16, 2009, 10:50
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To get certain Firewire/USB external or Internal HD seen by MacOS you need the MassStorage Master Drivers... I ended up having a Copy for the USB/Firewire IBM Externall HD that I linked up to my G4... I have a copy. These were needed even for MacOS 9.2.2 which I have on the G4... I have not played with them on my 7200, but will try...
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dpaanlka
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Reply #20 on: January 16, 2009, 18:00
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"MassStorage Master Drivers" - is that what they're called? I Googled that and there wasn't a single relevant result. Are you talking about the USB Mass Storage extension that comes with Mac OS 9? Because those don't work in System 7.
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reukiodo
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Reply #21 on: October 04, 2015, 09:17
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I'm curious if anyone has tried with some of Sonnet's older cards, such as the Tempo Trio http://www.sonnettech.com/product/legacyproducts/tempo_trio.html or the Tango http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tango_2.html I'd need a firewire DV device and some spare time to test this on my 9500 with the Tempo Trio. Unless someone figures out the firewire mass storage devices.
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