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_dave 32 MB Posts: 60	on: August 25, 2007, 05:59 on the subject of issue by Bandit why not revive the edit feature with an addendum. apply a few additional- oh God here it comes--- - Rules. i hate rules even if they are good ones and necessary. &^%$ rules already yaknow. as you were... now then; many fast thinkers and knowers of all do not type accurately, the little picture being subjucate. that's why we have secretarys <- ain't that a hoot. HooT HooT. you make mention of the need for honor (also formerally refered to as being adult) and upon an event in question • dispatch a warning • dispatch an ultimatem • dispatch a boot (1) (1) this effort should incorporate terms like those of Aristotle's, "Theories Of Temporal Contingencies." ya know - a time and place for everything. large smile. Cheshire smile. see i told ya we ned secretarie's. addition of html or css coding could also be a groove, unless or until it causes code bloating and fora constipation or there again; lack of Honor. this is a forum so can we talk here?! did i mention i hate rules. lowenbraus @33 for all. dam. can't even do a degree character.a unless this works. phpBB here i come. at a glance this actually looks like a slim (freeware) version of WebCrossings.

_dave 32 MB Posts: 60	Reply #1 on: August 25, 2007, 06:03 poll this; how many of us discussing System 7 are here on machines running 7.x.x ;-)

dpaanlka 1024 MB Posts: 1646	Reply #2 on: August 25, 2007, 13:01 Quote from: "_Dave" why not revive the edit feature Back in 2006 there was an issue with two of the leading contributors deciding to "leave" the forum - by editing all their posts to be blank. It happened to fast for me to catch. Thats when I decided that editing was a bad idea for regular users. One of those members has since returned, the other is still banned. When creating a post, the "Preview" button really helps a lot. Quote from: "_Dave" with an addendum. That is on the list of things to do, rest assured. Quote from: "_Dave" apply a few additional- oh God here it comes--- - Rules. i hate rules even if they are good ones and necessary. &^%$ rules already yaknow. as you were... phpBB does not keep track of edits so it makes it difficult to know who edited what how. Quote from: "_Dave" you make mention of the need for honor (also formerally refered to as being adult) and upon an event in question • dispatch a warning • dispatch an ultimatem • dispatch a boot (1) What new rules or changes would you make to the current rules thread? http://forums.system7today.com/viewtopic.php?t=120 Quote from: "_Dave" addition of html That would be acceptable for certain tags, bold, italic, and underline, but as of now it doesn't work correctly, and I'm not in a rush to do it. Quote from: "_Dave" or css coding That will never happen. This strives to maintain compatibility with Netscape 4.8 and CSS turned off, so that it can be accessed from System 7. Quote from: "_Dave" phpBB here i come. at a glance this actually looks like a slim (freeware) version of WebCrossings. It is phpBB, but a heavily modified phpBB, a lot by my own, undocumented design. If you can figure out addendums or the html problem feel free. Quote from: "_Dave" poll this; how many of us discussing System 7 are here on machines running 7.x.x Hmm well we have a poll of how many users actually have System 7: http://forums.system7today.com/viewtopic.php?t=4 As far as how many users come here on System 7? Well, this one does, and thats enough to guide the design of the site!

_dave 32 MB Posts: 60	Reply #3 on: August 25, 2007, 17:40 good morning Dan. thanks for the detailed reply - much apppreciated. being new i gotta explore and this thread was good. what with only 2 of many members avoiding parameters (didn't wanna say rules again) could you reconsider please? i think i'll go back to phpBB's site and look it over in more depth. going to read the polls you mentioned too and going to come here later on my Q660 but, with no firewall i don't drive it on the highway much these days. ripping dialup connection though. i find your site peppy (and well done, easy on the eyes) on my blue & white serioulsy. nice place ya got here.

p-amadeus 64 MB Posts: 89	Reply #4 on: August 30, 2007, 01:40 I have an idea in respect to editing, though I'm not sure it's possible to set up the forums as such...would it be possible to enable editing but only enable it for a certain period of time after the post is originally made.....like a week or something? So if you screw up you can fix it or if you forget something you can add to it, but after a week from the original post date it becomes locked down permanently... If it is possible to implement something like this I feel it would strike a good balance between not having any editing and having all out unlimited editing while preventing people who all out "leave" the forum from destroying all their old posts. I'm not too crazy about only addendums because if I mistype something it's not as easy to clarify with an addendum than with an all-out edit. Just my 2 cents

Bandit 32 MB Posts: 32	Reply #5 on: September 26, 2007, 06:28 My 2 cents, though it may be worth less than that … is that legislating behavior never works. If 16 year old girls want to have sex, they are gonna, you can make it illegal but that is unlikely to change anything in the desired direction. Convincing the populous of 16 year old girls that it is a bad idea to put out is dramatically more daunting of a task but at its worst it is going to be at least as effective as any law. My point? The relevance? Creating an atmosphere where people don't misuse editing, no matter how abstract the required action to accomplish such, will be dramatically more effective than outlining rules and policies. Just a historical observation of the world.

Minimalist 128 MB Posts: 186	Reply #6 on: September 27, 2007, 03:42 Quote from: "Bandit" My 2 cents, though it may be worth less than that … is that legislating behavior never works. If 16 year old girls want to have sex, they are gonna, you can make it illegal but that is unlikely to change anything in the desired direction. Convincing the populous of 16 year old girls that it is a bad idea to put out is dramatically more daunting of a task but at its worst it is going to be at least as effective as any law. You couldn't come up with a better example? It's kind of strange that the first thing that would come to your mind when discussing "breaking rules", is sex with 16 year old girls. Anyway... To each their own. Quote Creating an atmosphere where people don't misuse editing, no matter how abstract the required action to accomplish such, will be dramatically more effective than outlining rules and policies. I hate using preview myself. I'm the type that likes to hit submit and use the edit feature to correct any significant errors. It's quicker than using the preview feature, because the majority of the time the errors are so small that it's not worth the effort of correcting. So using preview is extra work that usually isn't necessary. As for misusing the edit feature, I'm of the opinion that people should be able to delete anything that is their own creation. I'm a firm believer in the concept of "I built it, I'll destroy it."

wove 1024 MB Posts: 1363	Reply #7 on: September 27, 2007, 04:46 The discussion is covering all things possible within the realm, while the specifics are more related to the feature set that is available. Matters relating to the proper use of editing is moot in that there is no editing feature available. No training is needed for the non existant feature and no rules are necessary for its proper use, because the feature does not exist. This is really no different from any software a person might use, be it web based or based locally on the users machine. The scope of an application is determined by the developer. I suppose that arguments can be made an unfairness exists because some users, namely moderators, can edit and other users cannot. Yet multi tiered levels of privilidges abound in the world of computers. In shareware those that have paid the shareware fee can do more than those who have not. Network administraters can do much more that normal users can. Cell phones are a prime example of tools containing features that remained locked for a variety of reasons. The features availble in the forums are sufficient to allow for the easy and abundant exchange of information, which is the objective. bill

dpaanlka 1024 MB Posts: 1646	Reply #8 on: September 27, 2007, 04:53 Quote from: "Minimalist" As for misusing the edit feature, I'm of the opinion that people should be able to delete anything that is their own creation. I'm a firm believer in the concept of "I built it, I'll destroy it." The problem wasn't people deleting their posts, per se, but rather "clearing" them or replacing their previous posts with nonsense. Whole threads were turned into pages and pages of nothing or nonsense. I understand the opinion that many have - that we should have editing. Sadly, I can assure you it isn't going to happen. When you send posts to email lists, such as the LEM lists, you cannot edit them or take them back in any way. Think of System 7 Today as being similar to an email list in this regard. The LEM lists are even stricter when it comes to very specific formatting and mannerisms - hence the need for "List Nannies." I know when I travel about the forum, if I find problems, such as mistyped BBCode or gross spelling errors, I'll fix it. Other moderators should too.

Minimalist 128 MB Posts: 186	Reply #9 on: September 27, 2007, 06:18 I like the way the delete function works in many online forums. Essentially, you are free to delete or "clear" your post till your heart's content until someone replies to it. If this could be implemented here, that would be great. If you take it a step further an apply the same principle to the edit feature, it would give users ample opportunity to create, correct, or remove. As long as no one has replied to your post, you can do whatever you want with it. Once someone does reply to it, you lose the ability to delete or edit as a means of preserving congruity and context. That would be a nice way to implement the "edit" feature here.

dpaanlka 1024 MB Posts: 1646	Reply #10 on: September 27, 2007, 07:03 Quote from: "Minimalist" I like the way the delete function works in many online forums. Essentially, you are free to delete or "clear" your post till your heart's content until someone replies to it. If this could be implemented here, that would be great. If you take it a step further an apply the same principle to the edit feature, it would give users ample opportunity to create, correct, or remove. As long as no one has replied to your post, you can do whatever you want with it. Once someone does reply to it, you lose the ability to delete or edit as a means of preserving congruity and context. That would be a nice way to implement the "edit" feature here. I can agree to that, but that requires programming. Find the appropriate phpBB 2.x modifications and I'll try to implement them.

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