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wove
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on: August 02, 2025, 00:41
The Register says that Apple had over 800 billion dollars in hardware sales in the USales during the last quarter. Probably people purchasing ahead of the expected tariffs. Apple made a zillion dollars in profit, which they expect to pay in tariffs next quarter. (as is so often the case the url will do best with a newer browser) |
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB  Posts: 2023
Reply #1 on: August 04, 2025, 06:57
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I find that crazy. Today's Apple is just super boring, selling the same products they basically sold 10 years ago. Not the specs, but the product, it's design language etc. Everything is super boring. And yet - the thing still sells. Is Apple today what IBM's beige boxes were in the mid 1980s?
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #2 on: August 04, 2025, 15:04
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Computers are tools and tools are only exciting when you are learning to use them. Once mastered they just become part of the background. Advances are mostly iterative, it i very rare to see a "revolutionary" advance. Apple silicon was a big step forward, but it did not make for any substantial change in what we expect to use computers for. I have more tech gear than any can say they need. For most of what I do, which for me is only stuff I like to do, the gear I have spanning a quarter century can be used interchangeably and that is precisely how it gets used. Manufacturers and software developers imply that one can find talent in the tool, but of course there is no talent in the tools. The talent is within the user. Iterative advancements are generally good, but as tool technology advances a point of diminishing returns will be reached. This results in income moving from manufacturing to service. While Apple obsoletes it hardware way to quickly, its services generally have good long term interoperability. Apple Notes introduced in El Capitan(?) not only still work with El Capitan but interoperate well with the latest OS. Movies are available in iTunes, and a first generation Apple TV still interacts with the current Apple TV to allow streaming of home videos and purchase/rental of content on the store. Style changes generate interest, but the longer you live the more you see styles just being recycled. Wait long enough and platform shoes show up again. Our 1950s toaster has been in and out of vogue several times, all the while still doing a fine job of toasting bread.
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snes1423
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256 MB Posts: 458 A Man born of Mechina
Reply #3 on: August 04, 2025, 18:07
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when was the last time there was a major innovation in lets say a screwdriver the 1980's? when electric ones became a thing?? just beacuse theres no innovation doesnt mean its not a high quality or even a good productˇ
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Cashed
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128 MB Posts: 192 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #4 on: August 05, 2025, 03:31
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Quote from: wove "The talent is within the user." Brilliantly depicted @wove -facts. Be it, a pair of shoes, pants, a shirt, jacket, or any wear -how many of you bought something in the past that just fit YOU! ONLY to discover a year or two later -that you could Not, get the same item again? I know that I would, buy the same item again instantly, even if I had to pay 1/3 - 1/2 extra -and others would too. Huge mistake and missed opportunities of every apparel makers and sellers -that's been ongoing in our lifetime. Gatekeepers are long gone You want new RAM for your vintage Macintosh? -you go to the independent hardware marketplace Tindie for the maker community. You want a mini retro DAW? -you go buy an Apple TV 1st Gen., and install Tiger, Leo, or Snow Leopard on it. You want to upgrade your new shiny Silicon Mac? -you go watch dosdude1 on YouTube. You want to publish a book? -you go publish it yourself. Just bootstrap it. We live in a new era The Right to Repair -movement advocating for consumers' ability to repair their own products (like electronics, cars, and farm equipment) rather than being forced to rely solely on manufacturers for repairs or replacements. -is here. Patagonia, famous for its high-quality, durable outdoor clothing and gear -provides lifetime product guarantees and offers repairs. Most companies has always failed in segmentation. Wait, what year are we in? 2012 The race to the bottom That's too recent, pick another year. 2005 Race for the top, race to the bottom Let's not leave out legacy interoperability: 2012 http:// The race to the bottom That's too recent, pick another year. 2005 http:// Race for the top, race to the bottom Basic principles Maintain excisting customers = cheap Acquiring new customers = expensive Which directives are Apple's path? Expensive = acquire new customers Cheap = main excisting customers Zappos, a shoe company that stood out on its own feet, was renowned for being the best customer service known in the world -until aquired by Amazon. I've experienced many companies growing fat and big from acquiring new customers to serve -in the end only to discard them and focus on B2B. The next inventions are just around the corner -they won't come from Apple. They are invented daily by talented makers who publish their soul public, feeding the feed -for industrialists to snatch and squeeze every last penny out of unconscious COWS in First Aid disguise.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #5 on: August 05, 2025, 14:58
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Quote from: Cashed The Right to RepairWell said!  and I think that was the whole premise of the hilarious 2005 animated film Robots!  on a more somber note, it's such a dang gone waste seeing perfectly good technology just left at the curbside 
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lauland
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512 MB Posts: 674 Symtes 7 Mewconer!
Reply #6 on: August 05, 2025, 15:52
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I'd sorta agree that Apple hasn't been innovating at the same rate they had in the past, but there has been one HUGE one that people, even me, sorta take for granted, and that's the move to ARM (ie Apple Silicon) chips for desktops and laptops, that the rest of the general industry still is far from catching up to. It's big in the linux world, and has been making large ground in servers, but even then, intel still dominates. And most linux laptops and desktops are still intel. Not on our beloved Apples. The fact that my main work machine is not only ARM based, but far faster than the Intel one it replaced is a quiet marvel to me. Having the exact same CPU architecture (and even most supporting hardware like gpus) in my phone as my desktop is something that I don't always appreciate for just how amazing it is. The fact that the core OS is the same also is amazing, again, that's daily bread for linux, but definitely not for Windows. All this has allowed Apple to slowly converge the basic building blocks across all their hardware. They could blur the lines far more than they already have, and I think "Apple OS" 26 is a step in that direction. There's no TECHNICAL reason anymore you can't run the same software in your pocket as on your desktop...although, of course, there are a lot of UI and scaling issues that'd make that awkward or undesirable. So, in a way, my Mac Book Pro is kinda boring, it's "just a mac", and does everything my Intel mac did, but the fact that it is ARM based if pretty amazing to me.
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