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snes1423
256 MB  Posts: 458 A Man born of Mechina 
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on: March 28, 2024, 16:35
without getting into politics you have all these hacker groups and nowadays you everything on the cloud it seems that even when you want to save something locally it ends up on the cloud more than that is the Intel Management Engine found in macs starting with the Intel 965 chipset i personally use a 2.33ghz C2D late 2006 17" merom macbook pro runnng tiger and it doesn't have ime i do have a Xbox one which i wish i could swap for a og xbox or a modded 360 due to the fact that everything is on the cloud it seems that after the 7th generation of gaming ended everything has become digital gone are he days of not just saving locally but giving up user data and being forced to install countless updates and now in terms of macs we have the fact that M1/M2 Macs are totally insecure now due to there keys being leaked meaning there's no fix |
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #1 on: March 28, 2024, 17:58
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Well a great deal is made about and a great deal of anxiety is created over keeping our personal machines secure. But actually what seems to get hacked is companies. So even if you are doing all your business the old fashion way, paying by check and dealing in person, the company you are dealing with is putting all your information online anyway. Perhaps it is less than hackers can garner by hacking your personal machine it is still significant. The last major hack that touched me with the hack of medical prescription systems. I do not do any of that online, but the pharmacy and clinic I deal with has my info and they put it online. In this case it has nothing to do with how secure or in secure my person computer is. I provide my data in person to get the electric turned on, and the electric company puts the data online where some ner-do well can snag it. In the case of the prescription hack the insurance company sent me a letter say they had been hack and most probably my information was grabbed. Their good news was that the hackers did not take down the system, the bad news is my info was grabbed and I should should remain vigilant for identity theft and keep up on my credit info. Oh goodie 
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB  Posts: 2023
Reply #2 on: March 29, 2024, 06:23
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Wove has a point when he says that most attacks are against companies and their servers and less against a private person. Given the sheer amount of data, I deem it unlikely that we see mass privacy infringement on a private level (there is undoubtedly some though). Here's comes my thought - right now the pundits have no trouble collecting data. The problem lies in analyzing data. (because it frankly is overwhelming). With the rise of AI, that might change soon and whatever "spyware" is on your private machine may indeed be used effectively. The bottom line remains - keep using your System 7 Macs ;-) (seriously though, be aware of what you buy, what you store on it and where you store it. And, as wove pointed out, what data you're giving away. I've accustomed to ask company clerks why they need this or that information from me. I'm in the habit of not completely (!) fill out forms that anyone gives me but provide the info that I deem they need to complete something. Why would they need my birthdate or employer if all they should do for me is ordering an item and sell it to me. Yes, this is more tedious than simply complying, but in the end, it's ultimately beneficial for yourself.
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #3 on: March 29, 2024, 12:25
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Quote from: “Bolkonskiji” I've accustomed to ask company clerks why they need this or that information from me. I'm in the habit of not completely (!) fill out forms that anyone gives me but provide the info that I deem they need to complete something. Why would they need my birthdate or employer if all they should do for me is ordering an item and sell it to me. That is some very solid advice for in person as well as online. Be aware of what information is needed to complete your transaction, and what information is just to scrape identifying data.
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snes1423
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256 MB Posts: 458 A Man born of Mechina
Reply #4 on: March 29, 2024, 13:50
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the final mac not to have built in hardware based spyware probably was the mid 2010 13" macbook pro running snow leopard due to it having a nvidia chipset and not a intel ime chipset
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1179 System 7, today and forever
Reply #5 on: March 29, 2024, 14:40
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On the 'why' ask for birthdates and such: it all comes down to validation in case you come back requesting a package be tracked and so on. Rather than as you for your Driver's license or other gov't ID, which banks and gov institutions do for official things or bank accounts and loans, they simply ask for your birthday to tie your transactions to you in case you need to fix something later and partially to prevent fraud since if needed and ID could be asked for. A store recently asked my father for ID when he used my mother's club card to verify his membership at the counter. I kind of get that, so such intrusion could be 'benign' policies at times It also falls under the category of being old enough to do transactions, especially online where some items may have age limits tied to them. Not every single thing, mind you, but it can serve to protect the merchant as well as the person ordering since not everyone out there's grown-up; part of why debit and credit cards are also limited to people old enough to use them properly. Just thinking through all the conceivable whys, which presents a case for both privacy and liability securities if certain goods are sold to the wrong age groups; granted it's a limited but valid concern. It makes more sense why establishments have licenses to sell tobacco and alcohol, things like that.
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #6 on: April 07, 2024, 18:51
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I also get annoyed by every site requesting your age, tel number etc etc… I too add the minimum and never give my details to shops.
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #7 on: April 08, 2024, 00:11
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Try to find a(ny) Bluetooth/Network device whose companion handy app does *not* request you to open up an online account with-lord-knows-whom, and I could promise you a $1 for each find, w/o fear of getting bancrupted by this. Why the heck does the handy app for a humidity meter or a home monitoring cam require me to open an online account in the people's republic? Why does Samsung's backup app keep peskering me about the same for SK? Why do I have to keep clicking away cookie warnings about "legitimate interests"? What's supposed to be "legit" about tracking my browsing habbits? So many questions, w/o any answers ...
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #8 on: April 08, 2024, 08:58
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Another special, unrelated to a specific OS: Try applying for a job these days w/o having to open up yet another online account. No matter where you posted your profile - LinkedIn, Facebook, Monster - 80% of job adds redirect you to some head hunter's website where you need to open up a completely new account, upload all your data, just to apply for this 1 job "opportunity". Its easier to keep track of your data when browsing gambling or smudge sites. 
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