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Jatoba
256 MB  Posts: 270 System 9 Newcomer! 
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on: March 20, 2024, 09:12
I think we're a clone now! (I wish.) Hey guys, I just realized that the 3rd party "clone program" manufacturers must have had documentation, schematics and a lot of other files & data so that they would make their own Mac clones officially at the time. One question I have is, have such files, or details of how YOU can make your own clone, surfaced? PCB design, schematics, anything... Another question, same topic subject, but nothing to do with the clones per se: do we have ANY SCHEMATICS, and/or any other data and files, that could allow us to contact a PCB manufacturer with, and get PCBs manufactured so that we would get our own replacement motherboards and daughtercards for 1st party Apple Mac models? (Or Clone Mac models, even.) This is something I looked into a lot for the MDD, but AFAIK we do NOT have such materials for the MDD... But maybe we do for SOME System-7-compatible Mac model? Preferably PowerPC, but even 68k models would be fine. (What about those 68k models that could be "PowerPC-upgraded", were the processor pins / pin configuration the same or similar between late 68k and PPC 601 or what?) The only reason I, literally, do NOT use a System 7 Today (ha!) is because of hardware availability capable of doing it. This is a problem anywhere, but where I live, there is a ZERO chance of me acquiring a used model, as the country I currently reside in BANS the shipping of ANY computer, including phones etc.. I tried. So it's not even a matter of money (which is also short, even more so for a hobby): it's a matter of not going against the laws of the government where I reside. And I can personally say that they are paranoid. SO! How do we go on about building our own stuff?!?! Do we have to just go NUTS and reverse-engineer everything ourselves, or is there existing material out there that could help? Not sure if relevant, but I will also link this in here anyway, in case it might be helpful somewhere down the line: http://system7today.com/forums/index.php?topic=3145.0 |
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Last Edit: March 20, 2024, 09:17 by Jatoba
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB  Posts: 2023
Reply #1 on: March 20, 2024, 11:24
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I haven't heard about any of that stuff before but you're right. When it comes to unearthing old schematics, the clone warriors from the 90s are probably the best address. Since you're mentioning "I think we're a clone now" - the creative behind that video (and lead singer) Dave Garr is still around IIRC. Maybe contact him and ask about whether he remembers some clone contacts? He has a reputation as being an easy-going open-minded person and might actually agree to help? If you google his name, his LinkedIn profile comes up as the first result. This is a very interesting adventure / idea that you're having Jatoba!
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Jatoba
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256 MB Posts: 270 System 9 Newcomer!
Reply #2 on: March 20, 2024, 12:16
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Quote from: Bolkonskij Dave Garr is still around IIRC. Maybe contact him and ask about whether he remembers some clone contacts? Not a bad idea! I will try.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #3 on: March 20, 2024, 19:44
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Sweet idea, Jatoba and Bolkonskij!!! You're becoming our very own, new Classic Mac 'Guy Kawasaki's! 
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #4 on: March 21, 2024, 10:01
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Been thinking about this all yesterday. Jatoba, why do you bring up such ideas!! :-) Another way would be to check on LinkedIn for people who worked as hardware engineers for companies like PowerComputing and UMAX? These individuals must have at least some knowledge left. And given the time, they are either approach pension age or are at pension age. Maybe one of them would love to do one last big masterpiece of hardware engineering as a hobby? Or at least share the knowledge with posterity?
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