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68040
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on: October 09, 2023, 22:36
I finally figured out how to route the audio via Pulse to my backend stick PC. I bought a 16 Euro mini speaker on Amazon to connect it to the headphone outlet of the tiny thing and I am amazed at the clear sound that I get out of this cheap assembly. Now I ask myself if the original Mac Quadra also had such good (internal) sound or if B-II - once more - is just turbocharging my Mac experience? I would love to think I'm hearing the sound the way it was meant to, but maybe I am completely off-track here? |
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Last Edit: October 10, 2023, 10:10 by 68040
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wove
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Reply #1 on: October 11, 2023, 00:44
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I do not think the internal sound of any computer is very good. Some laptops are not that bad, and AIO machines often have decent sound. My G5 PowerMac and Gigabit Ethernet have sound that can only be generously described as being audible, with the G4 mini, not even being that good. Macs typically have respectable sound out via the headphone jack and for new machines Bluetooth output is often excellent with good speakers. Although I like to blame my hardware for poor sound quality, an honest appraisal would put the poor sound quality on my old ears. Sound engineers have done marvels with speakers over the last decade. It is amazing how nicely some relatively inexpensive speakers sound. I do not use Basilisk for emulation. Sheepshaver in my opinion does not do all that well with media, either audio or video playback especially if you are trying to stream it. QEMU hardware emulation does a much better job, if you are using emulation to produce good quality sound and video output.
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #2 on: October 11, 2023, 01:57
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So is my setup just "faking" it with the speakers or is already the emulation of the sound chips not realistic? I am asking because I think of creating some multimedia titles of my own. But now I fear I might experience a kind of sound quality that can't be replicated on true vintage hardware.
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wove
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Reply #3 on: October 11, 2023, 02:32
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There are many folks on the forum that are quite adept at creating media especially sound for System 7, who can offer solid advice. I think as long as you are working with codecs supported by System 7 software you should generally be ok. System 7 spans both the PPC as well as 68k hardware, but media codecs and formats basically began in the PPC era and performance on 68k hardware was less than optimal. For instance I think Sound Jam is a PPC only application, even though it will run on 7.6.1. I think you you stick with formats supported by a 68k version of QuickTime you should see success.
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #4 on: October 11, 2023, 02:52
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Its not the codecs that worry me, but the actual sound experience. Mine is stellar but maybe that's just because I run my B-II with 21st century hardware in the back. What does it e.g. sound if you play a Beethoven MP3 on a vintage Quadra (/w or w/o external speakers)?
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wove
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Reply #5 on: October 11, 2023, 03:42
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This is an article from LowEndMac that covers setting up and playing mp3 on 68k machines. <https://lowendmac.com/thompson/06/0512.html> I had a Quadra 840AV which did a very nice job of playing music for QT files and from CDs, but it really sucked at playing mp3 music. I think if you are going strictly for the 680x0 crowd, you are best with sticking with formats that can be handled easily by QT. Of course I would love to be proven wrong.
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #6 on: October 11, 2023, 04:06
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Aaah, so its the sound format I should worry about. Thx for that hint!
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Bolkonskij
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Reply #7 on: October 11, 2023, 15:59
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Speaking as a veteran user of the venerable Mac IIci workhorse, which comes with an internal speaker - quality is not good, but acceptable. Keep in mind these speakers were built-in to playback a few simple melodies for games and maybe a short little Quicktime movie. They were not designed for crystal-clear multimedia content. I do, however listen to podcasts such as the low-fi version of the Retro Computing Roundtable on it. (for those interested, gopher://rcrpodcast.com) The article on LEM gives solid advice, go with mono and low quality and even my 68030 Mac IIci can playback mp3 files fine. Although that seems use to use up most CPU cycles, don't try to e.g. work in Photoshop 5 while listening! So to sum it up - you can listen to multimedia content even on a fairly middle-class 68k Macintosh such as the IIci IF IF IF you keep the settings low. Same goes for the Quicktime movies that I put on Cornica. If you care to look, you'll find that the 68k versions are usually in mono and 22khz
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #8 on: October 11, 2023, 18:27
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Quote from: lowendmac.com We are then left with . . . the 68k Mac media center.Now, that wasn't a nice thing of him to say. :O
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