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wove
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on: June 24, 2022, 19:34
Interestingly the system 7.7 apha inage includes an installer for Cyberdog.Cyperdog is my favorite browser of all time.Almost all the moderating I did on this forum was done on Cyberdog. I had a bit of trouble getting the internet working in SheepShaver. While the networking info said to use slirp that for me anyway did not work. I found that what you needed to use was SLIRP and using that popped me right in the network. In any event I am really pleased to be here using Cyberdog. It works so fast and so well, just as long as you are not trying to do anything modern. For me Cyberdog, surfed the web did my email, followed my news groups did gopher and ftp as well.Overall a fast and wonderful experience that I really do miss. |
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #1 on: June 25, 2022, 01:48
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And I thought iCab was the Mac browser of choice.
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #2 on: June 25, 2022, 02:45
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I think people no matter the OS they are using have their favorite pieces of software. I really have no idea why or how people choose what they use. Some seem to be driven toward lots of features and new features, some like light weight software, while others seem to like to be able to send email from a spreadsheet. Cyberdog is fast, very fast. Cyberdog has a great ability to just ignore content it can not deal with. If it can not handle an element, it just ignores the element and moves on. Cyberdog uses built in system components, when quicktime is updated for new media, Cyber can handle new media. Data detectors and AppleScript work well. Anyway CyberDog was my browser, email client and overall internet handling thing from the time it was released until the the arrival of OS X.
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB  Posts: 2023
Reply #3 on: June 25, 2022, 07:47
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When we tested browsers for the update on the System 7 Today browser central I had also tested Cyberdog. What can I say. The rendering engine is stuck at HTML 3 specs, but the speed is bad. You can get the same level of HTML 3 compatibility with the blazingly fast Netscape 2.0.2 as well. If you want to go for max features / compatibility, then iCab is your choice as 68040 mentioned. The slow speed of Cyberdog might not be as much of an issue if you're throwing Ghz at it through software emulation on a modern device but is certainly true if you're trying to run it on an era appropriate hardware. There just isn't any compelling advantage of Cyberdog I could think of, except maybe the "all-in-one" idea of a program suite that somehow sets it apart. But then each component has at least one better stand-alone program alternative in my humble opinion. That doesn't mean nobody should be using Cyberdog or enjoy using it, especially when you remember using it "back then" and know it "in & out". Besides, posting on the forum from a retro browser is much more fun ;-)
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1179 System 7, today and forever
Reply #4 on: June 26, 2022, 14:23
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I love the idea of taking Apple's very first foray into the Cyberspace browser world and seeing what it can do!  But wait, wasn't CyberDog's goal to have some level of extensibility? I mean, if one could get it to do more than it originally did (I think this was with the help of OpenDoc elements?) then it might be possible, and maybe even preferable, to explore those potential benefits based on the modular concepts Apple had back in the day? The only downside I see to this is that it's likely more the realm of code-tinkerers than part-time non-coders that get lost in more advanced programming elements like myself 
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #5 on: June 26, 2022, 15:37
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Yes, it should be extensible but that never happened. From what I understand, the framework enabled you to "easily" share data between apps as well as "callback events", e.g. scheduled time for a meeting changed in your e-mail program and an event is triggered that writes that change to your calendar application. Not sure why it didn't take off. Maybe because it was Apple exclusive (though that didn't keep off folks on other subjects). Maybe because the timing was bad? Maybe because it sounds like a compelling idea but in reality you wonder what a real use case could be? <-- I'd figure that to be the reason, really. Not sure. I haven't spend much time with OpenDoc, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Knezzen
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Administrator 512 MB Posts: 608 Village idiot
Reply #6 on: June 27, 2022, 18:38
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IIRC OpenDoc was one of the first things Steve axed when he got back to Apple. Whatever used OpenDoc got axed at the same time for obvious reasons.
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