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jojojoost
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on: February 24, 2010, 20:58
I'm new so first of all, hi! Here's my situation and problem. I have an old German Powerbook 170 with System 7.0.1 I als have a macbook with OSX 10.4 and an external floppy drive. I'd like to install 7.5.3 but the problem is that the System 7.5.3 01of19.smi won't fit on a 1.44mb floppy... Is there anyone that has a solution for this? Thanks in Advance, Jojojoost |
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dpaanlka
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Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 22:13
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The .smi files aren't copied to floppies, they're used to create floppies.
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jojojoost
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8 MB Posts: 10
Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 23:37
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Mmm but how do I install it then if I may ask?
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 01:58
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You need to open them on a classic Mac that has a floppy drive to make the floppies.
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jojojoost
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8 MB Posts: 10
Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 09:04
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The problem is that I don't have a classic mac, only a Macbook with 10.4 and a Powerbook 170. There must be another solution...
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 14:56
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Your method should work. I just copied the .smi file to a floppy using Mac OS X 10.5 and was successful. I have a very cheap USB floppy drive that I use for just such purposes and it had been quite reliable. Most of my floppies are getting very old and the floppies themselves are not as reliable as the drive. Make sure you erase the floppy before you use it and select Mac Standard for the format. If the floppy is good, you should be able to simply drag the .smi file to the floppy to copy it. In my case after the copy completed I was left will about 300 bytes free on the floppy. To install System 7.5.3, you will need to move all the disk image files over to the hard drive on the PB 170. All of these images need to be in the same folder and for an install, I place all the images on the desktop. Once all 19 of the image files are copied over, you need to double click the first image which will mount the disk image. At this point you can start the installer from the mounted image, which will mount the remaining image files as needed. The install should run automatically. Sometimes older floppies have bad blocks, so they will not format(erase) out to their full capacity and it is necessary to keep trying different disks until you find one that works. You can use the same floppy to copy all the images form your computer running 10.4 to your PowerBook. Just move them over one at a time. You will not be able to install 7.5.3 until you have all the images copied over to your PB 170 hard drive. bill
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 15:41
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Just to clarify an important point. The System installers that are downloaded from Apple's Older software downloads are segmented archives. In the case of System 7.5.3 the installer consists of one install archive broken into 19 pieces. Each of the 19 pieces will fit on a single floppy disk. This enables a person to transfer the entire install archive from one computer to another using only floppy disks. To install System 7.5.3 it is necessary to have all 19 pieces of the archive in the same folder on the same hard drive. The System 7.5.3 installer from Apple requires that you have a working Mac OS installed (in the case of System 7.5.3 you need to have a minimum of System 7.0.1 installed.) It is probably possible to re-purpose this installer for use in other ways such as doing a fresh new install, but as it comes from Apple it is an updater that requires all 19 pieces of the archive available on the same media. bill
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jojojoost
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8 MB Posts: 10
Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 17:33
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The problem is that every time I format the floppy it puts files on it.. here is a picture of what i mean. http://i48.tinypic.com/zvr9qx.png
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #8 on: February 25, 2010, 22:19
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Here is a Screenshot of the floppy I created. It appears we have similar files. I am not sure why your methods are not working. I cut the screen shot off before the bottom, but it reports that the floppy has 8K free. bill
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jojojoost
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8 MB Posts: 10
Reply #9 on: February 25, 2010, 22:22
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What is the exact process you went trough if i may ask? Because I've tried several floppies but they all said that it won't fit... And if there is no way on a mac is there a way to do it on windows without a app which i have to pay for?
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #10 on: February 26, 2010, 00:30
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Bill I think Mac OS X and System 7 format floppies different. I never had real hands-on success transferring files from Mac OS X to System 7 using floppies. I believe Mac OS X simply regards them as USB drives and formats them with HFS Extended (Journaled) perhaps or some other non-System 7-compatible partitioning scheme. Let me know if you experience otherwise, and if so what model floppy drive.
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Anonymous Freak
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Reply #11 on: February 26, 2010, 05:16
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OS X Trick: 1. Format the floppy in Disk Utility, not Finder. 2. DO NOT OPEN the floppy in Finder. (This makes the finder add more hidden files, which may be too much for you to still add your file.) 3. Drag the file to the floppy icon. If that doesn't work, you can try formatting and copying the file in Terminal, not Finder. Also, a warning: Leopard and Snow Leopard can not write or format a Mac-formatted floppy! (Or, for that matter, any HFS-not-plus disk.) It will happily format a floppy disk in MS-DOS (aka FAT12) format, but not HFS.
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wove
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Reply #12 on: February 26, 2010, 05:50
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The external floppy drive I have is a SmartDisk model D353FUE. It is just a cheap USB floppy drive. It creates and reads Mac floppies reliably in OS X. And those same floppies work in older Apple floppy drives. I believe that Mr. Freak's advice is solid. I use Disk Utility to format/erase the floppy and I copy files to the floppy via drag and drop on the floppy icon. I am using Mac OS X 10.5.8 and Disk Utility does provide an option to format/erase the disk using the HFS standard format. The HFS standard format is essential. Mac OS X will format a floppy as HFS+, but HFS+ is not a valid floppy format for any Mac OS prior to OS X. The USB floppy drives only work with 1.44MB disks and cannot be used to read and/or write to 800K floppy disks. bill
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jojojoost
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8 MB Posts: 10
Reply #13 on: February 26, 2010, 08:16
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I tried all the above ways, but as soon as it is formatted in HFS standard it's to small to put the file on, if i keep it FAT, the file does fit on it.. So i tried to do.. diskutil unmount /dev/disk2 newfs_hfs -h -v DesiredNameOfFloppy /dev/disk2 diskutil mount /dev/disk2 mv filename /dev/disk2/name But as soon as I mount it, you hear the floppy spinning and if wait till it stops spinning the file is too big... But if I mount the floppy and inmediately move the file it will fit, but then I get an error on my powerbook.. It says that the document can't be opened because the app it's made with, isn't on the computer or something (I'm at work so I can't recall the complete error) (By the way thanks for all the people that are helping me  )
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jojojoost
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8 MB Posts: 10
Reply #14 on: February 26, 2010, 08:19
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Sorry I meant mv filename /Volumes/Nameofthefloppy/filename
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