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madmann
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on: June 06, 2007, 23:44
I am looking into a mac road book I have looked at the 1400 ,3400, 2300 for system 7 use or should i go with a g3 ibook or wallstreet. it must cost less than 200 bucks what do you think? |
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wthww
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4 MB Posts: 5
Reply #1 on: June 07, 2007, 00:45
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From personal Experience, THe 1400cs/166 is quite the beast. I ran 9.1 on mine untill I started using 8.1. 9.x is all together too slow for this model, specially with its limited RAM. But it gets battery life you wouldnt belive. The NExt Step would be the 2400/240. Now were talking. Will run plain old 7.6 al the way up to nine. and it takes "Indsutry Standard SO-DIMM" RAM to quote EveryMac. This little bugger was my brothers first and last laptop. For a good amount of power, RAM, and HD, this can be a black buster deal. Especially since it supports 7.6, the focus of this site. (Can you tell I like it?) AH. THe 3400c. Pretty much the same as the 2400, only it takes special "3400 only RAM liek the 1400". This can be a real pain. If you deide on a 1400 or 3400, make sure the RAM is maxed out. Not only are the modules expensice, they are getting hard to find.
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sierraredd
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128 MB Posts: 212
Reply #2 on: June 07, 2007, 03:04
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I have a 1400 with a sonnet 333 g3 upgrade. 10gig hdd, 64meg ram (maxed), wifi, modem, compact flash pc card, The "c" screen. LOVE it. I use 7.6.1 and 8.6 using apples system picker. 7.6.1 screams with the g3 upgrade. I also have one with the 166, it's a good system too. Started with a 117 and built my way up. Hope that helps. Niki
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madmann
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256 MB Posts: 284
Reply #3 on: June 08, 2007, 01:37
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their were several 1400 version i want the 1400cs correct?
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sierraredd
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128 MB Posts: 212
Reply #4 on: June 08, 2007, 05:24
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The "C" model is the better screen. For processors, 133, 166 have the L2 cache which increase speed.
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madmann
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256 MB Posts: 284
Reply #5 on: June 08, 2007, 21:48
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what about the ibook clam shell is it worth the money. it looks like upgrading is out of the question
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dpaanlka
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1024 MB Posts: 1646
Reply #6 on: June 08, 2007, 23:04
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The 800 x 600 resolution iBooks are junk if you're planning on running OS X. I would say go for a PowerBook G3 Pismo, or iBook (Dual USB).
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helloimjoe
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Reply #7 on: June 09, 2007, 01:44
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I actually find my clamshell ibook to work very well, I don't use mac OS X on it, but Mac os 9.2 is good for me! I use an indigo one, and if you get one with more than the original 64 mb of RAM, Netscape 7 is a great browser if you plan to be on the internet with it, and the ethernet and modem work very well, (and the airport if you're lucky enough to get that!) Although not the lightest, it is very durable and the handle is very nice to have. Plus, it looks very cool! :-)
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wall
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256 MB Posts: 343
Reply #8 on: August 07, 2007, 21:13
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I have 1400c with 466Mhz Sonnet G3 and 64MB RAM running 761 and it is wireless too. I use Ram Doubler 8 to help with the RAM issue. I will soon try out the Ram Charger too. It should be possible to use it with the RD, but I am working at the moment to upgrade five macs, so will test it next month. Did you know that the Ram Charger is still available? http://www.jumpdev.com/RAMCharger8.html The only bad point of pb1400 is that you pretty much have to build it from parts if you are after a maxed out 1400, so you can not get it, if you are in a hurry. (Without using big bucks). It took me over a year of ebaying to upgrade the Book the way I wanted, but it was worth it. I usually bought complete Books for parts (like sierraredd), as it is cheaper and gives spare parts for future use too. From the extra parts I also built a 183Mhz with 50 something RAM for my girlfriend. There is also a picture frame project coming up. A link to a picture frame project I posted earlier, includes a full Apple pdf workshop manual of 1400. It do help. A partial list of stuff I hunted: -RAM -Keyboard (a language thing) -CPU -Internal HD -External HD -Internal and external Cd drives. (The ext works with Toast) -PCMCIA adapter -CF card -Wlan card -Docking station -External speakers. The internal speaker is useless for anything else than : "bing". It is possible however to change it cheaply to a better one. I will do it in the future. Just check the specs and go to a diy electronic store. Not much else needed than a screwdriver to make it work. -Wacom pad (I have Wacoms with every one of my macs. I only use mouse when building something, and the Extensions are off. Get yourself one even if you are not doing Photoshop or similar. You can get ADB ones from Ebay for less than USD 10!) -Card for external monitor (not in use yet and I have not checked if it is the one that can be used with a full stack of RAM) -Jaz & Zip drives -Rebuilt the batteries. It is cheap and easy, so do not buy new one for USD 80. I also changed screen from one pb to another and things like that. It is possible to buy nearly all the stuff new from mac shops, but you would need to pay way too much for the pb that way; cpu over 200, battery 80, ram 80(?) etc. Making the project less than clever as there are nice g3 Books for far less. But those can not run 761.
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wall
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256 MB Posts: 343
Reply #9 on: August 28, 2007, 18:07
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Quote from: "wall" I will soon try out the Ram Charger too. It should be possible to use it with the RD, but I am working at the moment to upgrade five macs, so will test it next month. Tested RC 8.1 with RD 8 in 761, but had minor problems, no crashes/freezes. My 1400/466/64 seems to be strong enough to run VPC3 with RD 8 only, so will not at this point do a 2nd test.
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