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Tech_and_Music
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Reply #15 on: August 16, 2021, 21:54
Would a piece on SATA PCI cards in the System 7 domain be of any interest? I could probably write a decently sized piece about this topic, that could be of help to those with PCI Macs capable of running Sys7, who are looking for storage options. |
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB  Posts: 2023
Reply #16 on: August 17, 2021, 07:38
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Yes, absolutely! It's a great idea for an helpful article. Data storage options is an issue for every owner of a real Mac since the old HDDs are pushing towards their 30's and SATA PCI cards are an interesting option!
Last Edit: August 17, 2021, 07:52 by Bolkonskij
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #17 on: September 26, 2022, 22:44
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Yes those original quantum’s had issues, thankfully i found a 1gb later scsi and transferred the files from the original 40mb drive days before it died. I’m sure my 6230cd has pci not scsi. I say go for it 
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #18 on: September 28, 2022, 21:13
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I follow on with storage solutions. Has anyone installed scsi to sd on system 7. I think i’m heading that route even though i love the sounds of spiny hdd’s so if anyone has a review, setup issues etc that would be nice. Not a particular system 7 thing so probably not for this tread but i love zip drives, i have 5 of them, scsi and 1 usb. Even though 3 of my old Macs are networked i rarely use it as i prefer using zip drives, the sounds, them literally taking your head when they eject lol 😆 by far my favorite accessory.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #19 on: September 28, 2022, 23:47
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Oh! I did do a full-blown discussion on storage at the Garden a few years ago hopefully it provides some good food for though on the subject!http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/hard-drive-prices-and-choices-mac-os-classic
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #20 on: September 29, 2022, 08:42
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I've been on SCSI2SD for a couple of years. Yes, I do miss the spinning sound too. Talk about nostalgia :-) What can I say? I've been using both the v5 and v6 SCSI2SDs and both work absolutely reliable. I decided to only get quality SD cards from SanDisk for them and I've not been let down. Didn't have a single crash or data loss in about 5 years now? Setup is easy but you need a modern machine to patch the firmware and settings on the SCSI2SD before putting it into your Mac. After that it's just a matter of swapping the HDD with the SCSI2SD. In operation it feels like an ordinary hard disk without the clicking sounds. Speed felt faster but then my HDD was pretty old at that point. What makes this really interesting for owners of compact Macs like you is that the SCSI2SD adapters reduces the heat. From what I take, those SE/30 can run pretty hot after a while, especially with expansion cards. So the SCSI2SD helps you get a cooler system. Look ma, no moving parts no more! My recapped Mac IIci keeps running for hours on and end with no freezes. It's been rock-solid. So definitely go ahead and get one. Since you live in the UK, there's this AmigaKit fellow who sells those. (got mine from him too. All went very well.) What about a tutorial article about SCSI2SD, best settings for System 7 Macs ? That might be something interesting to our page, wouldn't it?
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #21 on: September 29, 2022, 12:29
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On the SCSI2SD tutorial: yes please!
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #22 on: September 29, 2022, 13:02
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Thanks both 🙏 Oh yes please tutorial on sys7 would be awesome. I haven’t ordered one scsi2sd yes probably a Christmas present to myself. I did replace the original quantum as it was dying and brought a 1gb scsi from a 1997 mac which has the capacity but is still old. Plus i want to install my custom rom but couldn’t without re-installing the Os back to 7.5.3, resedit some system code, then installing the 7.5.5 patch which all seemed like a hassle unless i was upgrading the hdd. The Rominator has 7.1 on it as well so a few games mine struggles with on 7.5.5 maybe better on 7.1. I think mode 32 addressing stops some games from working.
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ovalking
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Reply #23 on: September 29, 2022, 14:13
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Been considering a SCSI2SD myself, but they are much more expensive than I what I usually spend on complete machines! Need a new drive for my P475. I've got quite a stock of spares but nothing suitable. I've got more 40M drives and IDE units than I have suitable machines for. It always seems to be the high capacity SCSI units that fail! I've got some Macs with Zip drives in them too... but never come across any actual disks!k
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #24 on: September 29, 2022, 16:26
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Hi Ovalking 👋 Yes they’re over £130 which is more than i paid for any of my vintage macs:- SE/30 - £60 6500 - £65 6230 - £30 Imac G3 -£20 That said i think they’re all worth more now than i paid for them. Zip discs, there were loads on ebay, i have about 30 of them and 6 iomega drive - 2 are spares though. 2 x scsi, 1 x inbuilt, 1 x USB and the 2 spares are serial. I buy batch lots of used 10 at time for about £10-15. New singles one are expensive £5-10 so I avoid those. Yes old scsi seem to be getting rarer, I suppose these were in mainly in server rooms or pro equipment so were likely ran 24/7 for many years where as IDE were mainly home use. Neal
Last Edit: September 29, 2022, 16:30 by Neal_SE30
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #25 on: September 29, 2022, 18:10
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At first I was in a bit of a shock ...£130! Prices sure went up! But then I realized the pound Sterling is even less than a US-Dollar now. So prices didn't really go up. Yes, the SCSI2SD is a bit on the pricy side. I still don't feel bad about paying for mine though. Like I said, it has proven to be a worthy investment. I used to throw out money for really unneccessary stuff (daily coffee-to-go from the café next door etc.) and decided to stop that and instead spend the money on a SCSI2SD. Good thing is, if I ever run into a cashflow problem, those high-priced SCSI2SDs always get sold near original price, so in that regard it's a better investment than my stock portfolio currently is :-D The v5 used to be a bit cheaper than the v6 btw (can't check right now which one they have in stock, on a retro Mac). The speed of the v5 is more than your 68k Mac can make use of anyway, so pick the cheaper v5 over the more expensive v6.
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #26 on: September 29, 2022, 19:08
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pound - dollar already changed but yes it is expensive. now though you have to also think of a few factors:- a.) It's a hobby and in the scheme of things our hobby is cheap; cars, golfing & fishing to name a few costs thousands. b.) these old machines like all things from the 1980/90s are going up in value and have been for sometime so actually £130 add on may actually be cost effective especially if you look at scsi external hhd's which will fail. as for V5 or V6, I've not really looked at the details but i doubt my little macs bus can even perform to a level of V1 on a cheap SD card so going top level would be silly. that said I agree with getting a good SD.
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snes1423
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256 MB Posts: 458 A Man born of Mechina
Reply #27 on: December 25, 2025, 13:07
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no iso with all the updates built in like 9.2.2?e
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