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Bolkonskij
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on: May 30, 2023, 11:52
Here's the project website (modern browser needed) MacIP.net basically offers a series of solutions using the MacIP gateway to connect your System 7 Mac to the net, even via LocalTalk. So what it does is letting you share files with any device such as your modern Windows 11 computer or iPhone. So essentially you get to integrate your System 7 Mac into your home computer setup again by (supposedly) easy file sharing. E.g. take photos with your mobile, then transfer them to your PowerMac 7100 and work on them in Photoshop 5 before you push them into a media library like iView Multimedia. So much for grey theory. Has anyone tested it out yet? Does it deliver on its promise? I've been using RaSCSI for a ethernet connection on my IIci but this seems like a much less costly and more focused solution. |
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Last Edit: May 30, 2023, 11:54 by Bolkonskij
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68040
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512 MB  Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #1 on: May 30, 2023, 15:09
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Seems to be dedicated to Raspberry PI as a back-end and it wasn't clear if it does support Local Talk over WiFi. In any case, if you got OpenTalk & Dave running stable (which I do) then I am not sure what I could get there that I don't already have.
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #2 on: May 30, 2023, 17:21
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Check the others on the page. There's one MacIP for the Orange PI. There's a VM solution and tinyMacIPgw where you can use an old Wintel machine as a bridge.
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #3 on: June 01, 2023, 02:52
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The ability to access and move resources in and out of retro spaces is one area where emulation does have an advantage over real hardware. The SheepShaver emulator package from Columbia.edu that I use a lot uses AppleScript in the emulated MacOS to read/write to a folder on the host machine and uses another AppleScipt to print to pdf and if desired send that pdf to the host machine's printer. I do recall I made a null modem cable and could use it to connect the Mac's serial port to the serial port on other machines, then use a telecom program to move items back and forth. Connecting a Mac to a Mac via serial port to serial port does not require a null modem cable because the Mac is capable of switching the wiring via software. Of course Mac connect to Mac via serial port will also create a two party LocalTalk networking connection.
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #4 on: June 01, 2023, 07:36
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Yep. But no need for emulation, you can have the best of two worlds. By adding such a solution, you can not only connect your old Mac to a modern network (and retain full compatibility, "look&feel" etc.) but also add capabilities like a SSL proxy. Feels like adding a network compatibility expansion card to any System 7 Mac. I think it's pretty cool and I'd be interested in how MacIP does this (I'm still using RaSCSI with my IIcI)
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Knezzen
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Administrator 512 MB Posts: 608 Village idiot
Reply #5 on: June 02, 2023, 15:06
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Very interesting project! Too bad I have a network card in all of my active machines 
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wove
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1024 MB Posts: 1363
Reply #6 on: June 02, 2023, 16:45
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A very nice feature that has been part of the Mac OS from the earliest days is that has been and is very network savvy. Whether you are using emulation of creating new hardware, you are working with a core OS that is capable of reaching out and communicating with other devices. Some of that probably comes from Apple's early push into the education environment and in the case of Macintosh its coming from the Lisa and Xerox's push for office environments. And it paid off, thirty years down the road and it is still a much desired, exploited and used feature.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1179 System 7, today and forever
Reply #7 on: March 11, 2024, 05:10
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Wow, so MacIPpi provides emulators drop-dead easy SSH feature to do things like access the modern web directly from your Mac web browsers as a 'browser in a browser' with full file sharing to all platforms, including mobile device OSes, plus it can host the SheepShaver and Basilisk II emulators? Shoot, I'm sold!  I may need to find and update my Raspberry Pi 3 with this project and skip trying to setup SSH on my own! That's what saved me with a similar MacOS9Win and Mac project to easily boot Mac OS 9 on Chrome OS and have full file sharing and printing on Windows 
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68040
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512 MB Posts: 950 68k - thy kingdom come, thy will be done !
Reply #8 on: March 11, 2024, 19:35
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What's your problem with SSH? I've got that running on MacOS 8.1 smoothly.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1179 System 7, today and forever
Reply #9 on: March 11, 2024, 23:57
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I know  My mind turns to mush when I get hit with certain types of non-visual steps. I can totally edit varying levels of stuff like lookup and snip some code online to fix a simple PHP code issue on a site, mess with some JavaScript on a page, install things to update stuff in Windows and even Linux, but it's just a little here and there to get over specific humps. It just seems like a bit more to figure out, like when I look-up SSH how-to videos. The tool itself looks superb, my noggin just gets lost in the weeds as I try to assimilate and decipher what I need to do. Sort of like when I wrestled with setting-up QEMU; at least there I've gotten a bit better (practice makes perfect comes to mind) I hate it when I get stuck like that, so I leave it alone and then try to get the process clear in my mind again a good while later.. tbh, it sucks. It's also the same reason why I shy away from programming, unless it's HTML coding or something trivial like that.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1179 System 7, today and forever
Reply #10 on: March 12, 2024, 17:48
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Okay, I'm trying again (I guess Imma sucker for punishment, lol) when I downloaded STunnel, it starts asking me for geographical info, and I'm wondering, 'did 68040 and everyone else all add their geo info in here?' as well as 'why is it asking me for this?' figuring it's just a simple way to establish some form of authentication, right? Here's the command prompt I'm in now: https://revontulet.org/2024/03/12/2a0c4981832a41f3b6d221ece32d7bb6.png So that was the first stump I hit on the road to doing the STunnel configuration. I mean, what's the harm if we're not 100% accurate with this CA information, or is that a no-no for a Certificate Auth to work? In a time that everyone values their privacy, I'm simply wary as to the why of some things, as much as I want to use any particular tool, that's all. I think CAs are also needed for other tools I'm about to delve into, in that case it's Nebula networking.
Last Edit: March 12, 2024, 18:32 by cballero
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