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on: November 14, 2023, 18:58

so after seeing the 1995 nintendo CES presentation on sailing the seven seas it got me thinking back before the SNES how did people make fake cartridges of real games was there a device or what not much info online especially on how to do it on a macintosh from the 80's
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Reply #1 on: November 14, 2023, 19:17

I can only tell about the TI 99/4a.

Back then we used small errors (or in some cases intentional "oversights" by the original game developer) to bypass copy protection schemes to read out the game code and dump it to disk. Then we relied on EPROMs to burn our own cartridges.

Since you seldomly could buy fitting circuit board templates, we often etched our own, with sulfur and other chemicals you most likely couldn't get anymore these days w/o some federal license.

Our equipment was so very crude yet we kept up on it all night if need be. It was a smelly business and thank heaven there was no EPA officer nearby to monitor our waste disposal procedures.

Specially the 99/4a cartridges were supposed to be "copy proof" - because management in those days believed in proprietary software like a pilgrim in his gospel. Yet some programmer had left a loophole in the original GPL code that allowed for custom made cartridges to be burned and executed on the TI 99 4/a.

And just when the age of home computers was challenged by the overarching PC creep, Texas Instruments decided to cancel the open line of their computer system and brought out a new beige version, with all loopholes closed.

Needless to say that sales collapsed after that - and thus the famous TI 99/4a suffered an infamous end.
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Reply #2 on: November 14, 2023, 19:50

There where floppy cartridges around for the NES, at least here in Sweden. Made it possible to copy from cartridge to floppy and play from floppy. You could then use a ordinary PC or Mac to make copies and distribute around.

Good old days ;)
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Reply #3 on: November 14, 2023, 20:21

what device would that have been called? the famicom disk system? ive head of a device that allowed you to make save backups but not game backups?
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Reply #4 on: November 14, 2023, 21:51

Stuff like this, snes.

Modern link incoming :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UILcAkFV83g
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Reply #5 on: November 15, 2023, 07:38

I vaguely remember 'em too. I think back in the day they called them stuff like "super nintendo back-up system", promoted as an ability to get back-ups of your bought game cartridges. Needless to say what it was used in 99% of the cases ...
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