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Bolkonskij
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on: November 03, 2022, 10:21
Anyone got one left? It's the little grey box that allows certain 68k models (the IIci being amongst them) to gain audio input capabilities. Developing a Hypercard adventure game with the kids on the IIci and it'd be fun to be able to produce some noise for import into the game. |
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cballero
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1024 MB  Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #1 on: November 03, 2022, 14:16
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Well, isn't that a cool doohickey!  It sounds remotely familiar, like something I may have read about in recent times on the MG  back in the day, I don't think I had though  Your project sounds amazing though!! 
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #2 on: November 04, 2022, 20:25
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I just looked it up, its not a thing i have. 1 on ebay but £1500 😳 I do have a mac microphone though. Does the iici have a mic input?
Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 20:33 by Neal_SE30
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MTT
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256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer
Reply #3 on: November 05, 2022, 02:19
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Eew, those eBay prices are getting nasty  Perhaps a cheaper (and more expedient) solution would be to record your sound files on the 8600, if you still have it, or some similar classic Mac and copy the results to the IIci?
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #4 on: November 05, 2022, 13:16
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Yes ebay has got a bit silly. maybe you can find a soundcard cheap enough with a mic input. the alternative way I use to get audio into my SE/30 is also a bit long winded. as I've set it up as a small recording studio I use a Macman midiman serial interface, through a roland midi sound module in through a 3 channel mixer (which allows mic input) back through the system out to my amp. not including the amp, speakers and Microphone it was approx £250. Still not exactly cheap but a lot cheaper that the ebay item so tend to agree with MTT use your 8600 and record onto ZIP drive or something like that then transfer it to youe IIci
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #5 on: November 05, 2022, 13:25
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If only I had a working mic for my 8600 ... *sigh* but thanks for the suggestion! The ebay prices are ridiculous. It shouldn't really be costing more than 20-30$ at most. There was one up on German ebay a few months ago for 25 euro - unfortunately I forgot to snatch it up :-(
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #6 on: November 05, 2022, 13:29
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I have one of those original little round ones, I don't use it and it's quite yellowed buts works. you can have it if you want it then it's just postage? it came in a box with lots of other bits with the 6500 tower, I've never used it but worked plugged in my 6200 when i tried it but as it was so yellowed I didn't keep it connected to anything.
Last Edit: November 05, 2022, 13:32 by Neal_SE30
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #7 on: November 05, 2022, 17:02
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That's a very kind offer, thank you! But I do have one of the original "spermium" microphones too. Unfortunately, it doesn't work. The IIci doesn't have a proper sound input and the 8600 doesn't recognize it.
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MTT
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256 MB Posts: 394 SSW7 Oldtimer
Reply #8 on: November 06, 2022, 02:59
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Is the one your 8600 would use, the earlier "round headed" AppleTalk microphone? If it is, there is one here on ebay that is actually priced sensibly. (https link) Ships to Germany. US$1.99 + shipping. If it takes the "PlainTalk" type instead, these tend to go a little higher in price, but they seem to be in plentiful supply on ebay. For example this one in the UK is selling for UK£8.99 + shipping.
Last Edit: November 06, 2022, 03:30 by MTT
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Bolkonskij
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Administrator 1024 MB Posts: 2023
Reply #9 on: November 06, 2022, 12:20
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Yes, the one I have is a rounded one (that came with the LC family of Macs). Some call it "the spermium " micro due to the appearance. It's not plain-talk though IIRC. I learnt from our respected S7T member ovalking that the 8600 doesn't have a true microphone input port, but actually a line-level audio input (higher voltages). The Apple PlainTalk microphone has a built-in amplifier to boost the signal to line-level, so that should hopefully work. As luck has it, I found an offer for Apple PlainTalk headset with microphone. Supposedly rare (like all the Apple stuff on ebay these days) but it wasn't really much more expensive than shipping stuff from the UK to here. I'll report when it gets here, so at least the 8600 will hopefully be able to get audio in. Still looking for a MacRecorder for the IIci, though :-) And next up will be a WebCam like the Connectix QuickCam then ...
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #10 on: November 06, 2022, 14:07
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Ok this is the mic from the 6500, hopefully should work on your 8600 as its the newer type? http://revontulet.org/2022/11/06/BC5C228D-68B2-4127-9BBE-D21CA81E1DC9.jpeg
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wove
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Reply #11 on: November 06, 2022, 21:16
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It seems odd that PlainTalk mics would be hard to find. They came with a lot of different equipment and systems. I am sure I have a dozen of them laying about, with about half of them new in box. I personally never had any use for one. Threads like this are a good example of how views of "classic Macs" have changed over time. Apple was ahead of its time in many things, but so much of their pressing of boundaries was well beyond what a typical Mac user had to work with. The Q840 was the only 68K Mac that could offer anything beyond demo amazements of AV creation, and to do that was a huge investment in equipment and time. I recall capturing a 20 minute TV show from a VHS on the Quadra, it happened in real time, used my entire hard drive and took over night to render. It was very exciting to see it could be done on a computer, but it was not very practical to think about getting into. Using the Geoport modem with a Q840 you could setup a phone answering machine. So you have just tied up $4000 worth of computer to reproduce a $30 answering machine.
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #12 on: November 06, 2022, 22:00
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I know but it’s the silly things you want to do with your machine. I would have definitely set it up an answering machine just because it could 😏 I went through graphic design/DTP college with a color classic. I remember rendering photoshop effects and being able to make diner whilst waiting lol. Still managed to complete the whole course on that color classic. 4mb/40mb. Loved the machine even the little 10 inch screen.
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #13 on: November 06, 2022, 22:33
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Now if there would be decent arcade emulators for 68k Macs, a Color Classic (or maybe the faster 25MHz Color Classic II) would really have made a pretty nifty little arcade machine! All that would be missing then is a Mac-ADB console game controller and joystick, and with today's tech, even have it be wireless! Let's not forget that a many Powerbooks and the Macintosh TV were IR-capable, so there's a potential that such gaming controllers could have been made, even battery-powered back then!
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Neal_SE30
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256 MB Posts: 401 System 7 Newcomer!
Reply #14 on: November 07, 2022, 00:02
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It’s a shame apple didn’t put more effort into the color classic. It had such potential with that glorious sony trinitron screen, small footprint and cute puppy dog design. It was meant for the education market i suppose so it had been limited as it was meant to be cost effective by apple standards. If I remember when i got mine in around 1993/4 it was the same price as the LCII (main unit) without the screen and keyboard but it came with everything include (including an inbuilt mic) on the front and connection on the back. my first mac and i loved it and it’s what got me into macs in the first place. Os7.1 256 colour and for all it’s slow internals it was brilliant for college, i was the only person with my own mac everyone else had to time sharethe college machines so i was the boss with my little box even if it took forever to render 😆
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