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snes1423
256 MB  Posts: 458 A Man born of Mechina 
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on: February 19, 2021, 03:10
How would i network one of these PowerBooks (without dial-up) would love to post to here from it 
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lilliputian
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64 MB Posts: 68 A Good Apple!
Reply #1 on: February 19, 2021, 03:45
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This might be difficult... With no built-in modem or ethernet (and not wanting to resort to an external modem with dial-up), you would need to use some sort of serial port to Ethernet bridge that supports TCP/IP. Some relevant info from www.applefool.com/se30/ : Quote There are a couple of Ethernet bridges that communicate over the LocalTalk port which can route TCP/IP traffic, known as hardware MacIP routers. Sample models would be like the Cayman Systems GatorBox, Farallon StarRouter, the Shiva FastPath 5, the Farallon EtherWave Mac/PB adapter (some models are just AAUI to RJ45 adapters, so keep an eye out for that detail, and this unit will not work with OT), and a few other odd ones; some like the EtherWave Mac/PB adapter can also overclock the serial port. The GatorBox also requires pre-OpenTransport OSs to configure it, like System 7 or 7.1. Some hardware MacIP bridges may not work with System 6, or have other quirks. As you can see, there are various caveats and pitfalls to consider for your situation (which is not specific to the PB165). EDIT: A slightly more complicated route might be to do something like the "DreamPi" for the Sega Dreamcast, but of course tailored to the Macintosh and an external modem of some description. EDIT 2: If you have a second Mac that has both 8-pin serial ports and an ethernet port of some description, you may be able to use the second Mac as an ethernet gateway. This page describes the process (although I don't know what software you would have to use, unfortunately): http://chrislawson.net/writing/macdaniel/2k0201.shtml
Last Edit: February 19, 2021, 12:18 by lilliputian
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snes1423
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256 MB Posts: 458 A Man born of Mechina
Reply #2 on: February 19, 2021, 13:18
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interesting but i can not find anything like this on ebay
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snes1423
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256 MB Posts: 458 A Man born of Mechina
Reply #3 on: February 21, 2021, 03:47
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http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/pb100/PowerBook100Wireless.html This seems promising but would this work on a 165 and if so can I use something other than a AirPort Extreme that’s cheaper
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cballero
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1024 MB Posts: 1176 System 7, today and forever
Reply #4 on: February 21, 2021, 05:04
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You're on the right track  The Powerbook 165c should have no problem with a SCSI to Ethernet adapter for a wired connection. Then there's several wired to wireless adapters that should work with the Ethernet adapter for WiFi.
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snes1423
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256 MB Posts: 458 A Man born of Mechina
Reply #5 on: February 21, 2021, 05:51
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know any wireless adapters under $25-30
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lilliputian
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64 MB Posts: 68 A Good Apple!
Reply #6 on: February 21, 2021, 09:15
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Unfortunately, at some point ebay sellers all decided that nearly everything Asante must be very "rare" and therefore very VERY expensive. Honestly, I didn't even think of scsi-to-ethernet as I'm not familar with it, but the device mentioned in the article, the Asante Micro, is currently going for a ridiculous $500 on ebay in the US, or £175 in the UK (cheaper, but still beyond outrageous). Ethernet to Localtalk bridges suffer a similar fate (as do SCSI to USB adapters, though they're a different subject).
Last Edit: February 21, 2021, 13:57 by lilliputian
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