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on: March 24, 2008, 21:16

Even though it's not plugged in and it's just sitting in a box in my closet, I've never gotten rid of my old Powermac 6500/275 Creative Studio Edition running 7.6.1 because I love the Avid Cinema hardware and software.  So much so that I've registed www.avidcinema.org and will put a community site together as soon as I find the time.

As much as I love my old 6500, I simply don't have the space in my home office for yet another computer, especially if I'm only using it for ONE specific application.

So, any ideas on how I can:

a) Tweak the 6500 so I can use it for more than just the Avid Cinema app?  Like, if I used the 6500 as a web server instead of bringing in the 4400, what impact would that have on the performance of Avid Cinema?  My 6500 has one PCI slot available, so I could install a USB port OR an Ethernet port, but not both.  Plus, the web server would have to run off 7.6.1 if I also want to use the computer to run Avid Cinema.

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b) Take the Apple TV video-in/tv tuner card and the Avid Cinema PCI video-out card out of the 6500 and get them to work on another computer, like maybe a PC.

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c) Install Linux on the 6500 and somehow get another video-editing app to recognize and use the Avid Cinema card and the Apple TV video-in/TV tuner card.

If none of these ideas are feasible, I have another possible secondary use for the 6500, and maybe y'all could help me make it a reality.

I have a widescreen LCD tv with a VGA-in port which resides in the living room.  I have my mac mini functioning as the centrepiece of our home entertainment centre so we can use the widescreen tv to play games, surf the internet, and watch videos we're downloaded off the internet.  

I'd also like to turn the Mini into a PVR, but I'm a cheap-ass and don't want to spend the necessary money to get a USB tv tuner that's good enough to do the job.

Is there a way I could have the 6500 with 7.6.1 in another room serving as the TV tuner, access it using the Mac Mini over my wireless network (my wireless router is a cheap WF719-CAPR), and have open-source PVR software running on the Mini?  

Or maybe there's actually PVR software that'll run natively on 7.6.1?  So, the 6500 would record the tv shows I want and save them on the big external hard drive that's connected to the Mini via a firewire cable.  That way, the Mini wouldn't actually have to control the processes on the 6500, it would just act as the 6500's file server.

Think it's possible?  If so, think it's possible for a dumb, cheap-ass monkey such as myself?

If the router's not up to the task, I suppose I'd be willing to invest A LITTLE BIT of cash to get a better one.  If wireless networking isn't possible with the 6500, I can run a wire from the home office to the living room.  The holes are already there for the cable tv.
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Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 20:12

I have a couple of these avid cards, and it's been a few years since I actively used one, now here's the thing:
the Avid card is capable of a few things:
1: with the cable to the apple video input card, any feed that card can capture will realtime compress in the avid format directly from apple video player and iirc, the avid cinema app.

2: the card will realtime out put to its video ports quicktime videos compressed in the avid codec whether they're played back from the app or quicktime, or another app altogether, by sensing the presence of the codec being loaded.

3: The card does no capturing of its own, and instead relies on the Apple Video input for all input.

4: You do not need a 6500 for the Avid card. In fact, you don't need a video input even. My first card came from a friend who was atx modding his Avid cinema 6500 in around 1999 or so? and I popped it in my 9600 with no hassle, but here's the catch:

The original software that shipped with the system will throw errors about the system not having a recognized video input device, and about the system being incorrectly configured from what I remember.

I was using the card in a 9600/200MP at the time with a TurboTV as my caputre device. At the time, Avid was still around and supporting their mac products and actually had a fix- the newer versions of their software does not care about the system being run on, however, as a limitation, it will still not capture directly from a non-apple video input, so i brought in all my video with teh turbotv app then cut it with Avid Cinema and output from there. I also remember rendering a few movies from Infini-D in the codec such that they could be played back directly to tape.

I'll look around this weekend for the "better" software version that they sent me. As it is, you can still run web server, etc in the background while you edit- install ASIP, or webstar, or something....
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