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Hardware / Powerbook Duo and Newer Ultradock
December 21, 2006, 12:45 |
Well, the problem is that at the moment the Duo only has a serial port, a modem and a floppy drive with which to contact the outside world - no SCSI or ethernet. So I might look into Zip disks once I actually have a way of connecting them to the Duo itself. |
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Hardware / Powerbook Duo and Newer Ultradock
December 20, 2006, 22:49 |
Sorry, I don't think I've explained this very clearly! This is basically the situation: My main computer is an iBook G4. I also have access to a PC. I've got hold of a PowerBook Duo 2300c with floppy adaptor and drive, which I was hoping to use as a small and lightweight laptop. I ordered an Ultradock from eBay, but it seems to be faulty (the Duo won't boot when it is attached). I'm therefore rather stuck, because I don't have any other Macs with old-style serial ports and so on, and so have no way of getting software onto the Duo apart from floppy disks - which is a bit tedious, and I can't see an easy way of getting Office 98 or Mac OS 7.6.1 onto it without some form of mass storage, be it ethernet or CD-ROM drive. I've managed to get hold of a SCSI CD-ROM drive (originally for the Ultradock, but I can't get that to work.) I've been looking around on eBay and discovered that it would actually be cheaper (at least in the UK, where Duo stuff seems to be pretty thin on the ground) to buy an older Powerbook with all the ports (i.e. the 520c) and sort of use it as a conduit for software from either my iBook (via ethernet) or the CD-ROM drive, to the Duo 2300c, via a Localtalk cable. I've read it's rather slow, but as I only need to install these things once (hopefully!) I'm not too worried about that - it can't be as bad as making sets of 19 floppy disks! It sounds a bit of an odd plan, but I think it will be actually cheaper (and I'll end up with another mac to play with.) This 520c was going for £15, whereas I haven't found Duo docks for less than twice that over here. The 2300c is the focus of this project (where I hope to install Office 98, WP and 7.6.1), and the 520c is a means to an end really. Sorry for the confusion - and this rather long post! Thanks for your help! Rob |
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Hardware / Powerbook Duo and Newer Ultradock
December 20, 2006, 22:04 |
I've got a copy of Office 98, which I think the 2300c might struggle with slightly, but I'm hoping Wordperfect will run more smoothly for general word processing. |
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Hardware / Powerbook Duo and Newer Ultradock
December 20, 2006, 20:37 |
Thanks Bill, that's great to know: if I can get the OS and office software on to the Duo that way, I think I'll be able to live with using the floppy drive for documents and so on! The only other thing that has occurred to me is that the Duo has a built-in modem. I've successfully connected to the internet with it, but it is painfully slow (14.4 kbps I think) and as local calls are not free in the UK, downloading software updates and so on from the internet is not economical. Can a modem be used to form a direct connection to another computer? My only other Mac at the moment is an iBook G4. Thanks once more for your help so far, and season's greetings, Rob |
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Hardware / Powerbook Duo and Newer Ultradock
December 18, 2006, 20:35 |
Would it still run 7.6 though? I know it's a rather strange way of doing things, but I could use it as a way of getting software from a network to the PowerBook Duo by localtalk, couldn't I? If the 520c is connected to Ethernet (or a SCSI CD drive for that matter) and the Duo connected to it via localtalk... I hope I've understood this correctly! |
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Hardware / Powerbook Duo and Newer Ultradock
December 18, 2006, 20:22 |
Thanks for all your help in this Bill. Rather perversely, it seems that the most economic solution to this for me is to buy another Powerbook! I've won a 520c on EBay which has built in Ethernet and SCSI and I'm hoping to use LocalTalk to copy files and software to it. Bizarrely, this has turned out to be the cheapest solution! Best wishes, Rob |
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Hardware / Powerbook Duo and Newer Ultradock
December 17, 2006, 14:09 |
Many thanks again for your advice Bill. Sadly I've still drawn a blank. The pointer doesn't go off the screen and I don't have an Apple monitor to test the monitor out with. I've a Duo floppy drive which works fine with the floppy adaptor but when plugged in to the Ultradock the machine doesn't seem to get as far as trying to read from it. It seems the same happens with the CD-ROM drive. I tried zapping the PRAM and the power management unit, but to no effect. Looks like the dock is defective - particularly annoying as I had it shipped from America! - so I suppose I'll have to look for another solution. I don't really have room for a fully fledged dock, so am I right in thinking that the Ultradock is pretty much the only compact way of getting an ethernet port? Thanks for your time, Rob |
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Hardware / Powerbook Duo and Newer Ultradock
December 15, 2006, 18:10 |
Oh, and I forgot to say, there is a terminator attached to the CD drive (does it matter which port it is attached to? The two on the back appear identical) |
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Hardware / Powerbook Duo and Newer Ultradock
December 15, 2006, 18:09 |
Many thanks for your advice, Bill. Unfortunately I still can't get it to work. I've given the Powerbook a clean install of 7.2.1 (which I think came with it) and tried just the dock, and the same problem still occurs. I then attached an external SCSI CD-ROM drive (the only external SCSI drive I have!) to it and tried that, but there is still a blank grey screen, no matter which power button I use. You can manually set the SCSI id on the back of the drive - I tried 1 and 0 to no avail, but should it be something specific? (The Powerbook does indeed have an ATA drive). The CD-ROM drive lights do blink a bit at startup and when the Powerbook is switched off, but nothing else happens. I had the 7.6 install CD in there at the time. Thanks for your help, Rob |
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Hardware / Powerbook Duo and Newer Ultradock
December 14, 2006, 22:51 |
Hello, I don't know if anyone has encountered this problem: I've a Powerbook Duo 2300c and have got hold of an Ultradock 16sce, which has SCSI and ethernet connectors, with which I was hoping to install 7.6, connect to the internet and so on. However, with the dock inserted, the machine won't boot properly - it hangs at a grey screen with a moving pointer. It doesn't get as far as the happy mac symbol (or a sad one for that matter). However the ADB and sound out ports of the dock must be working beacuse I can hear the startup chime and the pointer will move with a plug-in mouse. Is the dock just broken do you think? Or is there some setting or known problem at work here? I'd be greatful for any advice, many thanks!! |
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