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Operating System / connecting to os X via ethernet
November 20, 2006, 01:05 |
I was under the impression that you need a crossover cable to connect machine to machine (without an ethernet hub.) Do you suggest I do a direct connection with a regular cable? I don't have a hub, and really can't use one once this is complete. |
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Operating System / connecting to os X via ethernet
November 19, 2006, 23:10 |
I have run into a problem in following your instructions on connecting my PowerMac on OS 7.6.1 to my iMac on OS 10.4.8. My physical connection is direct via an ethernet crossover cable. When trying to connect using the PowerMac (Per your instructions) I get to the step where I enter my username and password and tell it to connect. After a few seconds to think about it, the PowerMac comes back with a dialog box: "the application "unknown" has unexpectedly quit because an error of type 12 occured." I've tried restarting, reconfiguring, and reconnecting several times with the same result. Error type 12 in my book deals with an unimplemented core routine (A programmer might set breakpoints in parts of a program to inspect for errors. This requires using a debugger. If a debugger isn't installed when a breakpoint occurs, you see this error code.) What debugger do I need, and where do I find it? When trying to connect using the iMac, the systems recognize each other, and the PowerMac shows up on the network by name, but when I try to connect, I get an error dialog "This server uses an incompatible version of the AFP protocol. You cannot connect to it." Could it be that your instructions, while valid for OS 10.3, might not be valid for OS 10.4? I know I've been making some pretty simple mistakes here, so is there something I've overlooked? Thanks Wally |
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Operating System / Transferring Large files
November 14, 2006, 07:10 |
Followed instructions - got a usable disk. Absolutely no problems, and read easily by OS 7.6.1. Thank you again for the assistance, and as this project comes together, I'll keep you updated. Thanks again Wally |
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Operating System / Do you have a machine running OS7
November 14, 2006, 03:01 |
I'm running OS 7.5.5 on a Mac SE/30, and OS 7.6.1 on a PowerMac 8500 |
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Operating System / Transferring Large files
November 14, 2006, 02:57 |
Having discovered that the CD's created on my iMac (OS10.4) are not readable by my PowerMac 8500, I had to find a way to transfer large files (that won't fit on a floppy) from the internet-connected iMac to the unconnected 8500 (OS 7.6.1). I obtained a crossover cable and tried to get the two Mac's to talk - without success. I'm assuming my problem is that I haven't installed Open Transport 1.1.2 (7.2Mb) and Appleshare 3.8.3 (6.4Mb.) Of course, those are among the files I'm trying to transfer over! My questions: assuming I can install these programs from system install disks, which system disks can I pull them off of? If that isn't a solution, is there some hack that will allow me to read the iMac created CD's? Or maybe you have some other suggestions Thanks |
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Operating System / Getting 7.6.1 installed
October 28, 2006, 00:10 |
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. It doesn't appear to be the disk. I have successfully installed OS 7.6.1 onto the original 2Gb disk with no problem. I'm thinking that the problem may lie with the fact that the new disk is described as "SCSI-2 Fast" and should probably reside on a controller card capable of matching it. I do have an "ADAPTEC 2930C" controller card that should match, but the drivers available from their website (PowerDomain 2930) are described as for OS8 and above. I don't see any Adaptec drivers on your help page, and I'm wondering if I should go ahead and try to download their OS8 driver and try that? Or maybe you have a better idea? (I'm kind of counting on it . . ) Thanks for your help so far. At least we know what the problem isn't! Wally |
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Operating System / Getting 7.6.1 installed
October 25, 2006, 04:01 |
Of course when I try extensions off with the 7.5.5 boot drive, the CD isn't even recognized. When I disable the good boot drive, the machine does boot off of the CD with extensions disabled. Makes no difference in the installation of the new system though. Still stops installing on the desktop printer extension, and the fingers stop counting after a few minutes. The reset button doesn't work at all while the fingers are counting, I notice. The machine reads all the programs it wants to install off the disk, reads the system, writes two or three programs to the disk and then stops at the desktop printer extension. I used the hard disk toolkit (FWB) to check the disk, and both partitions are bootable, the disk shows no bad sectors when I test. The drive in question is a Seagate ST15150N Baracuda 4disk, 4Gb drive running at 7200 rpm. The other two drives are Identical. The original boot drive is a Seagate ST32151N Hawk 2XL running at (I think) 5400 rpm. Could the rotational speed of the newer drives have anything to do with the problem? |
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Operating System / Getting 7.6.1 installed
October 25, 2006, 01:42 |
Amazing how much we assume we say . . Sorry about that. I am unable to get any of the system install disks to complete the install. 7.6.1 freezes the machine at install of the desktop printer extension. The fingers keep counting for another 5 minutes or so, and then they freeze too. The only way to reset the system is to unplug. The other OS installs quit in the same way (I just didn't memorize where). I restart using the older disk (OS 7.5.5) and clean the partial system files off of the 4Gb drive I was installing to, check the system again and then remove the older disk to restart with the install disk and try again. I've even reformatted and partitioned a new disk into 2 2Gb sections and tried that with no luck. Beyond the time consuming disk and RAM testing, I think I'm out of options. There has to be something I don't know that could be tripping me up. |
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Operating System / Getting 7.6.1 installed
October 24, 2006, 21:34 |
I'm having continuing problems getting my PM 8500 up and running on 7.6.1. I found 3 4Gb SCSI drives with the "standard" 50pin connectors. All are successfully initialized and partitioned (1 partition) as a "boot drive" with Hard Disk Toolkit. I've tested each of the drives using TechTool Pro, and tested the 448Mb system RAM as well. All tested good. I reformatted the original 2Gb drive with 7.5.5 when I first got the machine, so I know the optical drive is functioning. So far, so good. I got a 7.6.1 install disk on eBay and can't seem to get it installed on the 4Gb drives. (I've also tried to install 7.5.5 and 8.0 from original install disks too) I know the latter two disks work, and I've some confidence that the eBay disk is OK too. Having this much problem with what would seem to be such a simple installation project tells me that the only common denominator - ME - is somehow not functioning correctly. The machine is good. I've tested the original drive in all positions, and have moved the 4Gb drives into and out of the machine with no problems in drive recognition. And the memory testing was extensive - and time consuming. I know it is good. So what do you guys think I am missing? |
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Hardware / bigger drives under OS 7.5 (or 7.6?)
October 09, 2006, 06:26 |
The SCSI probe 5.2 only shows the two primary buss's (internal and external) and both drives are visible to SCSI probe as they are to Hard Disk Toolkit. I have had the original 50pin drive at the end of the cable, booting the machine with no problems. Having been told that the "wider" drives have to be at the end of the cable, I moved the original drive to ID4 up the cable and installed a smaller 68pin drive on the end of the cable. I did unterminate the original drive, and terminated the "new" drive as ID0 on the end of the cable. The system boots OK off the original drive. The "new" drive spins up, flashes its led light in what appears to be an appropriate manner. The hard disk toolkit extension checks both drives, and the "new" drive reads "Level One Failure (Low Severity)". Hard disk toolkit and SCSI Probe identify the drive as DEC RZ1AABS (C) DEC REV3001. (The two drives in question are: "boot drive" is a Seagate ST32151N and the "new" drive is a Seagate 32155W.) I haven't found any logical combination of jumper settings that will allow these programs to see this drive as functional. This seems to leave the adapter as the culpret. Described as a "Wide to narrow converter. HD68 male to IDC50 male. Active Negation on high bytes", I'm wondering if maybe I should be looking for a "Mac Compatible" adapter. Or have I been doing something ELSE wrong and don't know it. Thanks for your time Wally |
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Hardware / Bigger drives under OS 7.5 (or 7.6?)
October 05, 2006, 06:25 |
I've been having some problems getting my software to recognize, format and mount various 68 and 80 pin gigabyte drives in a PowerMac 8500. I have some issues with RAM which I think I've cleared up, but I can not get Hard Disk Toolkit or Apple's Disk Setup to recognize these drives on the SCSI buss. I have manuals from each manufacturer, and have attempted to set the jumpers correctly, and I have attempted to set jumpers using the manufacturers suggested settings. I'll be glad to be much more specific if someone wants to discusse this in some kind of depth. I'm really blown away by this because even the drives with the apple on the lable aren't being recognized! Hope someone has some experience with these kind of kinks! Wally |
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New Member Welcome / Peeking through the doorway
October 05, 2006, 03:21 |
It appears that I have achieved "newbie" status - again! Hope here that I don't reveal myself as "newbie" too often within the forum. A little of my history: I became the proud owner of my first Apple, an Apple II circuit board, sometime in the mid 70's. At the time, the only computers in boxes were called things like "Imsai" and "Altair" - if I recall correctly. I built the power supply, added memory chips and a surplus keyboard, and hooked it up through a converter to my portable TV set. It wasn't long though before Steve and Steve caught on and produced their first complete home computer. My first Mac was a plus, and I've owned the SE and SE/30 (still have it, currently as "Mother" to my merry band of Newtons!) and later owned the PowerMac 8100 and 8500. I've also got a couple of OSX boxes on an Airport network as well. My current project started off as an attempt to upgrade the SE/30 to better serve the Newton I use daily in my "day job", and I ran into trouble when trying to install a larger hard drive. Having picked up several gigabyte hard drives on eBay, I was quite disappointed when not one of them was recognized by the SE/30. Having no luck getting any of my acquaintences to format a drive for me, I picked up a PowerMac 8500 on eBay, with the thought that I could use it to format and mount one of these hard drives and then install it in the SE/30. So far, I haven't been able to mount the drives in the 8500 yet, but I am cleaning up some RAM problems with the machine and have hopes that I'll be able to get back to the hard drive problem soon. At present, the 8500 is running OS7.5.5 (to match the SE/30), Hence my interest in "System 7 Today." Whether I'll upgrade from 7.5.5 is more a question of practicality since the "Plan" now is to upgrade the 8500 - max RAM, ATI Radeon 7000, Huge hard drive, and of course wirelessly connect it to the other computers! I will soon be needing to translate a very large database off the Newton, clean it up, and open it up as a Filemaker Pro database. I'm thinking the 8500 will be more up to that task than the SE/30. And besides, I can play Tomb Raider on the 8500! That's a task well beyond the SE/30! See you soon on the other forums |
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