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News & Announcements / An important message from Dan
August 20, 2016, 21:48 |
The System 7 Today Forums Will Be Permanently Closed October 1st, 2016 Please read below for the reasons and where we go from here… Over ten years ago I started System 7 Today from my Bradley University dorm room. Back then I was still actively using Mac OS 7.6.1 on a daily basis using a PowerBook 1400c/166. I was also an aspiring web developer, using System 7 Today as a platform to learn to code. This was an era before smartphones and tablets, before HTML5 and CSS3, and before TLS encryption became the norm, not the exception. It was an exciting time and I learned a lot along the way. Later in college I had the opportunity to take control of decades-old Info-Mac websites, which the previous owner was looking to shut down. I decided to take what I learned from System 7 Today and create a new online portal to encompass all Apple products. I worked very hard with help from some friends from System 7 Today to integrate all Info-Mac content going back to 1984 into this new, database-powered and searchable website. I’ve also tried nursing a new community that wasn’t specific to System 7, although that part hasn’t been as much of a success. Nonetheless, Info-Mac has been my primary focus for the past 8 years. After graduating college I started a career and interests have taken me elsewhere. I rarely stop by System 7 Today anymore. I no longer own any functioning System 7 machines (although I do still have Mac OS 9 around on a Kanga G3). Because of this, the System 7 Today codebase has languished. But this alone is not the only motive for my decision — after all, why can’t I just let System 7 Today continue on, even without my involvement? There are a couple critical reasons for this which I will explain below. The technical problem. System 7 Today is powered by phpBB version 2, updates and support for which ended long ago. Since then, there have been two major versions of phpBB released, and in the next couple of months they are about to release another. This means that System 7 Today’s core backend software will be 3 major versions behind. It’s actually even worse than that, because System 7 Today is not even the latest version of 2.x — it’s several bugfix versions behind there too. When I first created System 7 Today I made it a goal that the website be accessible in browsers that actually ran on Mac OS 7. To achieve this goal required heavy modifications of the phpBB 2 codebase. This turned out to be a huge mistake, because every update to phpBB wound up being a tedious and frustrating process, and it only got worse and worse as subsequent updates took phpBB further and further away from the version I originally modified to create System 7 Today. Eventually, I stopped trying. phpBB 3 marked a huge change in the platform, the largest update ever. I tried on several occasions to sit down and figure out how to migrate System 7 Today completely over to phpBB 3. Each attempt ended in failure and reverting back to phpBB 2. Finally I stopped trying, as I no longer have the time to dedicate to this like I did as a college student. System 7 Today is incredibly obsolete and will never be updated. Ever. The security problem. Being one of the most (possibly the most) popular online forum software, phpBB is subject to an incredible amount of attacks from would-be hackers and thieves. Whenever a security vulnerability is discovered (whether by the phpBB team's diligent effort or by a successful exploit by a hacker) phpBB rushes out an update to close whatever security hole exists. System 7 Today is missing 6-7 years of these updates. On top of this, System 7 Today is served to your browser in plain text. This was the norm in 2006, but in 2016 secure TLS encryption is quickly becoming the standard across the entire Internet. System 7 Today will never have this, and I have no doubt in the next few years browsers and search engines will begin throwing error messages when you try to access System 7 Today. The continued use of System 7 Today poses a security risk to all of us. The usability problem. System 7 Today was designed entirely without CSS, in old-school HTML using <table> objects for layout. I tried exactly mimicking Appleâ's late 90s website design, down to the color, fonts and element positioning. I did a really great job, actually! Unfortunately in 2016, System 7 Today is usability nightmare. It's not pleasant to use on ANY device, smartphone, tablet, or desktop” quite a feat in bad design! Regretfully, this will never be updated either. The solution. At this moment I find myself juggling the management of two large forums, in addition to my day job and all the other stuff I do in life. One of these forums is completely 100% up-to-date with the latest software, security and usability standards. The other is not. Shutting down System 7 Today is both a difficult and at the same time an easy choice to make. I value all of your contributions and conversations over the past 10 years, and I don't want to lose that sense of community we’ve all built. If you haven't already, I would like to invite you all to register at Info-Mac, and continue the conversations over at the Vintage Macs section specifically. We're the same people, just transitioned over to a website that doesn't suck. If you haven't visited Info-Mac in awhile, you'll find the website is fast, secure, and works great on Macs, iPhones, iPads¦ and even Androids and Windows devices! It also has a lot more features that come with any modern phpBB board that were never enabled on System 7 Today. I know for some of you, this will be the end of the road and we won’t see you over at Info-Mac, and that’s totally okay too. It’s your choice in the end, but I hope more of you will come than don’t! Starting October 1st you will no longer be able to post new topics or reply to existing topics at System 7 Today. New users will not be able to create accounts either. I will let the website remain as an archive, however visitors will be encouraged to head over to Info-Mac to post any new discussions. Feel free to share any concerns, rage, comments or questions you may have here in this discussion. Hope to see you around! - Dan |
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Hardware / G3 Kanga 7.6.0 and 7.6.1 Solution Thread
June 29, 2016, 17:21 |
Quote from: "reukiodo" Do you think this might work on a Wallstreet, or is it just too different? This will not work on a Wallstreet as it is totally different. Kanga is basically a 3400 with a G3 soldered on. |
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Off Topic Discussion / Spams
November 12, 2014, 02:42 |
I am just now becoming aware of how bad this is getting. So far it looks like all of it has come from Pakistan, so for now I've gone ahead and blocked that entire country's range of IPs. Let's see if this helps for now. |
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Feedback & Ideas / CAPTCHA on user registration?
October 15, 2014, 19:29 |
I’ve just recently noticed a new type of spam where newly registered users are copying old posts and then re-posting them again. Makes it hard to spot right away since at first glance it looks semi-related and on-topic because naturally it was copied from elsewhere on System 7 Today. It’s a never ending battle 
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Hardware / LCII mouse and keyboard issue
June 25, 2014, 22:31 |
Well replacing the PRAM battery can't hurt but that's a very strange symptom to have. Is this an Apple keyboard and Apple mouse? |
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Development / Need a Macintosh Programmer
August 20, 2013, 17:12 |
Actually you can download this right here: http://www.nasolab.com/freebies/resolution_manager.hqx?mt=8 |
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Classifieds / PM8500/132 for sale with LOTS of extras.
July 31, 2012, 01:58 |
And cosmetic condition? |
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New Member Welcome / Character builder
July 31, 2012, 01:58 |
Sounds great. You might have a tough time with that though. Can you look at the back of the machine and determine if it has an ethernet port? |
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Operating System / System File Extensions
July 31, 2012, 01:44 |
Echoing the previous statements - Stuffit will create archives that can be decompressed on Mac OS X, and their contents read. |
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Hardware / Browser for OS 7.1
July 31, 2012, 01:43 |
You need an FTP server program on the Quadra. Transmit is not that. Also, you really should just find 7.6.1. On a Quadra there's no reason not to run the latest version of System 7. |
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Off Topic Discussion / Ipad or Kindle Fire
May 14, 2012, 00:11 |
Well obviously only Tim Cook knows the answer to that question. But have you seen or used a Kindle Fire? I would hardly describe it as fitting into a pocket, even in cargo pants/shorts. I don't know what you're thinking. |
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Development / Hypercard - is there a modern equivalent
March 12, 2012, 14:58 |
This is one of mine: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/arraysync/id415935093?mt=12 |
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Development / Hypercard - is there a modern equivalent
March 07, 2012, 17:06 |
I would say LiveCode/RunRev looks rather unpolished. The Mac App Store is literally full of apps created entirely with REAL Studio and you wouldn't even know. |
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Development / Hypercard - is there a modern equivalent
March 05, 2012, 23:24 |
REAL Studio has grown to be extremely robust these days, far far more so than it ever was under Classic (which is one reason they changed the name from REALBasic, to disassociate from BASIC). I use it for software development myself, it can also be used for web app development now too. http://www.realsoftware.com/realstudio/ |
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Hardware / Power Mac 6500 and System 7.6
January 27, 2012, 00:28 |
You mean 7.6.1 right... I never had any problems on my 6500. |
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