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1 Emulation / Re: Emulating the Commodore64 on a 68k Macintosh
October 28, 2025, 17:52
Sadly, good (i.e., cycle exact) C64 emulation is just too much even for a fast '040. A line-based emulator like Frodo might squeak by.

I was a big user of Power64 and Power20. They both integrate extremely well with the Mac. It has some odd little gaps in its emulation but it does a very good job with most software and runs even on modest Power Macs. The filesystem integration made it excellent for development. However, I tried for a while to get the author to release the source code, which he wouldn't, and now VICE is pretty much the gold standard. I still use Power64 on OS 9 though.
2 Operating System / Re: Unix on System 7 era Macs - experiences / recommendations?
September 16, 2025, 02:58
Another recommendation for Power MachTen. It's basically Classic inverted: Mach that runs as a task under the Mac OS, instead of the Mac OS running as a task under Mach.

It's idiosyncratic and has some bugs, but it works fairly well, and it supports networking too.

Otherwise I like Rhapsody for this, but it's finicky what it runs on, while Power MachTen will run on pretty much any Power Mac that can boot the classic Mac OS.
3 Off Topic Discussion / Re: Commodore Back On Track
August 28, 2025, 22:48
Yes, it has the "traditional" C= logo. The story is that it was a promotional item, though Commodore seems to have produced it in some numbers. Here is someone else's picture (I have a boxed example but I'm away on business today):

https://monochromeeffect.org/wp/en/2018/10/20/commodore-am-radio-2/
4 Off Topic Discussion / Re: Commodore Back On Track
August 27, 2025, 23:54
I've got a Commodore AM radio myself. Its case is a tiny model of their desktop calculators, of which I also have several. It's not bad sound considering. (And, just a few of their computers, too. ;-)
5 Hardware / Re: Built-in ethernet for Power Macintosh 7200/75 doesn't work
August 26, 2025, 04:13
The AAUI adapter and the built-in Ethernet *should* have the same MAC because it's the same NIC presented on two different ports. AAUI is just AUI in an Apple-specific form factor and different voltage and the MAU is on the dongle; the 10BaseT port has the MAU on the logic board.

As such, there is no advantage to using the built-in Ethernet except to get rid of the dongle -- they are exactly the same and run at the same speed. Most likely you simply have a busted 10BaseT port. If the AAUI dongle works on your network, the 10BaseT port should also work with the same cable connected to the same port on your router or hub unless it's just plain shot.
6 Software / Re: MacLynx beta 6 released - back to the Power Mac
May 01, 2025, 04:09
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Another issue I've run into a couple of times is when I switch to another application (Wallops for chatting in my case) and then go back to MacLynx I'd get a white screen. It is not redrawing. I kind of have the impression this happens a lot when downloading something in the background while doing something else.

If it's actively downloading, it should still repaint the screen when it finishes. Does it not do that, even if you wait for it?

The trick there is that during network transactions or page processing it's deep inside Lynx code at that point, so if it's doing an operation that loops for awhile inside Lynx, it won't check for Apple events until that finishes. I'm not sure how to solve that efficiently since the event loops are already pretty badly telescoped into each other.
7 Development / Re: Archie
April 29, 2025, 18:34
Excellent work! I've always thought about doing an Archie revival but the indexing was the intimidating part, and you've already jumped into that. Kudos for making it accessible to existing Archie clients, too.
8 Software / Re: MacLynx beta 6 released - back to the Power Mac
April 21, 2025, 04:18
I need to read these forums a bit more often ...

The idea is that MacLynx beta 7 for PowerPC would have its own built-in TLS support and wouldn't require the Crypto Ancienne proxy like it does now (it would use the Crypto Ancienne internal TLS library to make HTTPS requests).

Doing something like this wouldn't be an easy task for Classilla, btw, which is heavily oriented around Mozilla's NSS library. But MacLynx has no crypto of its own, so it should be an easier job to bolt it on. I have to figure out how to wire it in there but I think it's doable.

Form support is sort of the next frontier; form stuff behaves differently than links do and I need to write the hotclick code for them from scratch. Again, doable, but not trivial. For paragraphs, though, the text area control should have multiple lines which *should* map to separate paragraphs IIRC.
9 Off Topic Discussion / Re: The PowerMac 7100 and its codenames
March 19, 2025, 04:42
I don't think Sagan thought about it as deeply as you have. :) That said, in fairness, Sagan did not appear to be aware of the connection in his *first* letter, in which he wrote "My endorsement is not for sale. For this reason, I was profoundly distressed to see ... Apple's announcement of a new Mac bearing my name." (Apple Confidential 2.0, p49-50) Sagan subsequently sued over defamation of character, though this could have been as much to the Butt-Head Astronomer epithet as anything else, and the judgment references that. He lost that suit and sued again, this time for using his name in the first place, and it would be difficult to credibly assert he wasn't aware of the other code names by then. He lost that too, but Apple was concerned about the bad press, and made an apology to him as a settlement so he would go away.

The "fraud" in this case is obviously not literal, but these code names are well-documented. I'm sure Apple's lawyers will never let any written reason why Carl Sagan (or the others) was selected see the light of day, of course, but hearsay from others at Apple seems to confirm the story (see, among others, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32041795 ).

The situation is indeed a bit more complex with 8.6. In an Old World Mac, the v2 nanokernel is not active until later in boot, but even in a New World Mac the nanokernel still ends initialization by jumping into the 68K emulator. You can even see this with a logging ROM like that with QEMU; it terminates with the message "Reset system - Into the 68K fire:"

10 Off Topic Discussion / Re: The PowerMac 7100 and its codenames
March 17, 2025, 20:58
Sagan's objection was not (entirely) unreasonable, though. The initial x100 Macs all had codenames suggesting fraudulent science because the PowerPC was pretending to be a 68K (remember, the normal state of a Power Mac in the nanokernel is to be running 68K code). Thus, the 6100 had the codename of Piltdown Man (the famous fraudulent "missing link") and the 8100 was called Cold Fusion. By implication, this might have suggested Sagan ("billyuns and billyuns") was equally phony.

It was still a stupid thing for him to do, however, and yet another wonderful example of the Streisand effect.
11 Off Topic Discussion / Re: There’s been a disturbance in the force
January 08, 2025, 15:47
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In our vintage world, I don't really know how, or if, this affects "alternate" browsers like the various mutant ports of FireFox.

TenFourFox has been TLS 1.3 capable for quite awhile, and the same by extension for things like InterWebPPC, though I do need to update the root certs again (should be okay for the time being).
12 Off Topic Discussion / Re: Hello from a iMac G3!
November 12, 2024, 00:04
(all IMHO)

8.1 uses a bit less memory and I prefer it on early pre-G3 Power Macs like the 2300, especially if they have a relatively low memory ceiling.

On a New World system or a machine with a G3 or G4 upgrade, however, there is little reason to run anything prior to 8.6, and good reasons to run at least that: more PowerPC native portions of the operating system, better tuning for later CPUs, improvements in the nanokernel and support for Carbon. This doesn't apply to the iMac, but on multiprocessor Power Macs 8.6 also introduces Multiprocessor Services.

Almost all of my classic Power Macs run OS 9, except for the 9150 which doesn't have an OS right now, the 2300 which runs 8.1 and the BeOS 6500 which runs 8.6 (the BeOS launcher can't run from OS 9). This is because almost all of my classic Power Macs have G3 upgrades (like my 1400, 7100 and 7300) or are natively G3/G4s.
13 Hardware / Re: Wireless in OS 9
September 25, 2024, 20:12
For my TiBook G4 I velcroed one of the Netgear game adapter WiFi boxes to it (they connect with Ethernet, and Classilla can be used to set the SSID). To keep it self-contained, since it would take 12V, I wired the power terminals into the FireWire port. No drivers needed.
14 Development / Re: Building firefox/mozilla/etc from source
August 14, 2024, 04:41
I'm glad you enjoyed the article. That one was particularly fun to write. However, you'll notice there is an insane amount of boilerplate code involved in doing so, it would only be helpful to run Clecko within Cyberdog (which already requires an excessive amount of memory) since there aren't really many other OpenDoc-aware container applications, and the SOM components would need a connector piece to bridge to XPCOM which would have to be written from scratch. It could possibly be made to work but the effort to do so would be substantial and I doubt it would run very well.
15 Hardware / Re: My IIci is now a 32 MB monster aka favorite RAM size?
July 07, 2024, 21:52
I'm also on Team Maxed Out. My NetBSD IIci has a full 128MB in it, but then it's a server. I also have the full 16GB in my Quad G5, 1GB in my 7300, 2GB in my Sawtooth G4 and 2GB in my MDD G4, though 9.2.2 sees only 1.5GB of that.
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