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1 News & Announcements / Software transfer... September 27, 2016, 05:14	Hi Dan, not sure if you are one of the contributors to info-mac, but I'm wondering whether all the software/games can be transferred to info-mac if they aren't already there, especially the ATI-7000 working on under 7.x, as I managed to get it going under 7.5.5, and it still rocks on a so called old 7200/90!
2 Hardware / Toast version... March 18, 2011, 14:37	Thanks for that, just want to see if Toast 5 works. I currently have Toast 5 Deluxe but it requires carbonlib to function. As I bought an external Yamaha CDRW which came with the software, and is running off my MDD on the UL3D/UL4D. Seeing I have a MDD running 9.2.2, can I just place the Extensions from the G4 to the 7200? The Yamaha currently can only be read from the UL3D and UL4D (under X) ... I usually switch connections when swapping between OS on the G4. ULD4 for X whereas UL3D for 9. The UL3D even working under 7.5.2... wow!!! might get myself another card... fairly cheap, the UL3D I got from a film firm here in Melbourne for $30 AUD... nice, included everything from cables + software in original packaging. Should have asked if they had another one... UL4D on the other hand was bought recently from ATTO for $350. The 7200 is just an experiment, if it will work, its intent is to be a fairly reasonable web/email server. Not expecting large hits/min but decent enough to do some FileMakerPro 4/5 DBs. Its currently not doing anything grand, and it can be at least used for this, I guess... no point having another door stop cheers
3 Hardware / Fastest SCSI CD-ROM or CD-RW Drive? March 12, 2011, 14:14	Hi, would anyone know of a really fast SCSI CD-ROM or CDRW Drive? I have a 7200 and recently got myself a ATTO UL2D SCSI controller. Placed 2 Seagates 300GB 15.6 Krpms in and bam the thing flies. Only If the origianl 4X CDROm can be updated. Can anone help us out, I have one SCSI bus open as the UL2D is two channels. Currently the CDROM is in a 50pin config and don't mind if I change it to 68pin. Also, is there any software that burns CD under 7.5.x? cheers
4 Hardware / SonnetTech G4 400/1M for the 7200.... October 31, 2010, 12:18	Hi there, I have had a recent battle trying to get a previously working Sonnettech upgrade card for my trusty 7200/90 working. - It initially was bought with the intent of getting 9.0.4 to go slightly faster on the 601 machine. It also however needed extra improvement such as faster CD and HD to be of notice. I really should have put the money in getting those instead of the crescendo card and 9.0.4 retail install. Anyways, I had recently sold my 9.0.4 and the 5x64mb DIMMS, realizing that I didn't need 9.0.4 as I already have a MDD running 9.2.2 for other personnal things. The 7200 is used primarily for simple 2D/3D cad running FormZ 2.4.x and StrataPro 2.5.3 as well as Illustrator and Office 98 and FileMakerPro/Server 4 for client database. It is situated in a fairly dusty Engineering environment as to why I have not chosen the G4 for the task. Getting back, I opted to go back to 7.5.5 seeing that the original OS was 7.5.2 and the SonnetTech was classified compatible with 7.5.3... I opted for 7.5.5 seeing it comes with better QT/QD3D extensions and other goodies such as running IE 5 and various others. Also, upgraded the system to 4 x 128MB DIMMS onboard, 3 x 128 DIMMS on the daughter card, using the latest Crescendo 1.1 Ver Driver which was meant to accept the larger memory addressing. Trust me the OWC memory which was purchased for $13 or so was impressive in 4 x 128 onboard. When I was running the system with the 64MB Dimms, at the time it couldn't handle more the 5x64MB, of which the larger amount of ram had to be on the daughter card... as to the 5 DIMM configuration. Anyways, now with the recent downgrade, I have lost the ability to start the machine with the card placed in a PCI slot... thats any PCI slot, without any other PCI card or external device attached, except keyboard, mouse and monitor. I keep on getting a Type 10 or type 11 error at startup, just after the last extension is loaded, though I doubt ~ATM is the cause of the problem. I know these are meant to be memory errors, but the specs on OWC states 60ns 128 DIMM 5V non EDO... suitable for the 7200 machines. (ONLY if they made 256 variants... 1GB would have been nice, especially running a zippy OS such as 7.5.5). I have tried all sorts of methods in trying to get this going. From placing the card in different PCI slots to rearranging the number and memory config between the card and the motherboard. I have even gone to the extent of removing each VRAM currently 4 on the motherboard out as well as the 1MB cache that was there, to no avail. This was so to make sure that neither the on board cache nor VRAM was the issue... though I doubt it would have been because it was working whilst the machine had the 5x64Mb config. I'm thinking it could be the refresh on the newer 128Mb sticks, though when confirming the specs with OWC they advised me that they are in fact 4K refresh not 8k... as the Crescendo card had problems with the 8K resfresh sticks. Would anyone here who has had this card come across this problem and resolved it.... I have had numerous communications with Sonnettech but nothing... thanks
5 Hardware / PCI gigabit Ethernet cards.... October 31, 2010, 11:40	Hi there, Read somewhere that certain PCI Gigabit cards are as simple as PNP depending on chipset. I came across a D-Link card they other day based on the DGE-S60SX 100/1000 Mbps PCI adaptor. It uses the Marvell 88E8001 Controller. It has DOS aswell as 98/ME support, so, I'm thinking it at least should be visible to the Mac running 7.5.5. The only Mac reference is 10.2, 10.3. Though I'm thinking it was introduced around that time or not long after. Would anyone one if this would work. I'm running off 7.5.5. thanks
6 Classifieds / Various Mac Stuff for sale... July 18, 2010, 11:08	Hi there, I have multiple stuff for sale which are MacOS 7+ compatible, as well as Newton goodies. - MINT Claris Works 4. VGC (floppies) comes in original box & manuals: http://techspace.com.au/components/com_marketplace/images/entries/20162a.jpg - Color StyleWriter 1500 VGC : http://techspace.com.au/components/com_marketplace/images/entries/19105b.jpg - MINT Virtual PC 6+ updates: http://techspace.com.au/components/com_marketplace/images/entries/20175a.jpg - Crescendo 7200 G4/400 1M Processor card http://techspace.com.au/components/com_marketplace/images/entries/20146a.jpg - MINT - PageMaker Scripting reference book: http://techspace.com.au/components/com_marketplace/images/entries/20156a.jpg - MINT USB Floppy LaCie Drive: http://techspace.com.au/components/com_marketplace/images/entries/20164a.jpg - MINT NEW VIDEO CAPTUR CARD for 68k/PPC machines : http://techspace.com.au/components/com_marketplace/images/entries/20429b.jpg - G3 Ram: http://techspace.com.au/components/com_marketplace/images/entries/20167a.jpg - NEW MAC OS X 10.2 SERVER Unlimited client* (OPEN BOX): http://techspace.com.au/components/com_marketplace/images/entries/20428a.jpg - Quark Express 3.32 (Great Condition) : Sorry now photo yet - MINT AAUI-15 adaptors, will include 5m cable + terminator : Sorry no photo yet - ADB Serial Cord: http://techspace.com.au/components/com_marketplace/images/entries/20201a.jpg - Newton Blank slot card suitable for 120 130, 2k models :http://techspace.com.au/components/com_marketplace/images/entries/19094b.jpg - Newton Nokia Fax/modem card + cords: Sorry no photo yet. - Also some belkin ADSL modem/routers I am situated in Australia, if anyone wishes to enquire further please see www.techspace.com.au where I have placed these items plus others. For non pictured items I will provide if requested eg Quark 3.32. NOTE: All $amounts are in AUD so slighty cheaper for anyone in US, @ time of post AUD$1 approx. USD$0.85. Please review items @ techspace.com.au for summary and cost. All payments are through paypal, and I'll provide shipping number for tracking. Send us a msg either system7today or through techspace.com.au cheers
7 New Member Welcome / Newbie in da house... May 16, 2009, 11:03	Its been a long time since my last debut, but I have risen again to respond to this thread " Saying that something is 'crappy' doesnt really offer any thoughts on anything. Java was created by C++ programmers to offer a web presence, offer a built-in GUI support, and be platform-independent. How is that crappy? C++ / C doesn't offer any of these... " C/C++ does offer these, you are just ignorant. There are things called libraries which you compile with your code these libraries offer extended functionality, something that OPEN DOC... yes OPEN DOC, the technology which came with 7.5.5 and 7.6.1 where futher ahead of JAVA at the time any day. The reason why JAVA became popular is due to the fact that business managers wanted the latest BS... they didn't realise that JAVA was no different then C++... but that was before the 2000 .COM fuck up... I hardly find JAVA books in technical book store now days there mostly newer stuff which is basically a rehash of older technology with minor additions and packaged for the guys that like wrappers... kinda remanicent to jerks playing on their mobile phones... you see them all the time at the telco outlets especially at large shopping malls... Web presence??? JAVA applets? What happend to those by the way... Dead technology? Here is another question... Whats is the demographics on Programming languages on the web, JAVA isn't really up there. I mean there a darivatives, but you can basically do the same thing with smart javascrit and cgi (c/c++/tkl/pyphon/perl) code JAVA/JSP servers currently run on hardware specific platforms. JAVA is partially platform independent. But where is the SPEED when your running byte code? That only comes into play when you actually complie it for the platform... Then it no longer is platform-independent... Its hardware binaray! The moto write once - scratch anywhere is for morons... Do some research before making a stupid comment like that! " System 7 is great, and still is , but I only break out my collection of 16 or so macs every-so-often for nostalgia. In fact, I restored a mac portable, and I rarely even use it--there's only so much that 7 will do on a 68000. " Yep, you are too busy like most people buying the latest crap... You know the more one wastes there time not doing much the less likely in them finding full potential in what they have. 7 is not X, I realise that, but if your means to do something is satisfied with running 7 does the trick, why waste your time outdoing the next jerk... just so you can waste your money, time, effort? Not very smart later
8 New Member Welcome / Also... January 23, 2009, 11:47	Mac OS X is not the hardware... if you get speed on those systems ITS BECAUSE THEIR NOT COCOA RUBBISH apps! and the hardware is vastly improved and YES the hardware is somewhat better, though I don't see the point of having USB... ADB/SCSI worked quit well for what they did... This USB/FIREWIRE is just anothe complexity... I couldn't say a SCSI320 PCI/X card is equivalent or slower than Say ULTRA WIDE SCSI, or even SCSI 160 which run under 7.6.1 or that a 8Core MacPro is slower than say a Quadra 840AV in 68040 chip or Apple SE 30. That would be BS'ing. I made the point that X and offerings from MS after WIN2000Pro or any OS after Year 2000 are now dishing out over useless HUGE sluggish crap, which make the INTERACTION with the system slow. AND THAT IS FACT! Your point is different in light of WHAT you want to believe. But if your are in industry like actually using these OS's to earn cash or otherwise you will come across many, many people which have the same view that I have... From the PC side, most still see Win98/2000 as the perfect OS for their PC needs. From the Mac side most of them see 6/7.5.5/7.6.1/9.2.2 as the holy grail. Some still prefer to use II/gs or Amiga or Atari variants. Anyone using X now is only due to UNIX and iTunes euphoria... UNIX by the way is from 1975 or there abouts which means its far older. Which should mean its old hat. How come you didn't dish that age... UNIX was made by University (mostly) personnel staff which later ended up going in the private work sector and they took their code with them. The prompt either c:\ or % was seen as KING. No one before 1990 even, could even afford a UNIX platform, on a personal level, anyways. The thing now is just for the dumb asses that don't know any better. And most don't use the prompt either from a PC aka DOS/Win or Mac X perspective. If you had Pre 7 OS's you would note that they came with a terminal app.. You heard it correct. So the distinction between UNIX and Mac was transparent apart from their memory and thread scheduling techniques... Nothing else. Again, an old Sun Sparc II, or even the pre MIPS SGI's use... yes Motoral 68K chips... even NextStep/Amiga/Atari HW origianlly used it. How is to say that now UNIX is the thing... UNIX/MacOS X could have easily been employed within MacOS version 7... you basically had the grunt of the Sparc and the SGI boxes... nothing stopped Apple apart from wanky business decisions. The 68K environment (the chip itself could support yes multi processing (68040 line 4xSM processing) and preemptive/co-operative) nicely. MacOS 7 could have run the same way as UNIX (preemptive) or Standard co-operative and schedule the task against the respective method in order to accommodate processor time... maybe you should do a little bit of study before mocking me... try A/UX. The reason why most new apps are faster than its predecessor is mostly due to HW improvements not the OS or the new versioned App itself! The fact that they take up space for no benefit is a bloody waste of space, and they really don't take advantage of 64bit memory addressing especially X Cocoa... ITS COCOA rubbish I'm dishing, its the culprit. I don't think if anyone has exhausted the amount of memory... just take a look at a COCAO crap app like Mail.app. Its size is 44MB or so. Now look at MS Outlook Express (classic) 5.0.2. Its size is 6.2 MB... can anyone please tell me WTF is up with that? Take a look at the memory requirements... Mail.app is a behemoth... do you or any one else get satisfaction? No, not really cause when you use the application you don't think of these things. But a competent programmer will look at it and tell you its straight out shit. Can not someone use outlook express and do the same things if not more than Mail.app? Then test the speed... and don't compare Mail.app against Outlook Express in (Classic Mode - X emulation crap).. Run OE under straight 7/8/9, though you may need to get the version applicable to 7. 5.0.2 I think only works on 8.5 and above The fact that UNLESS your application really needs to use 64Bit addressing is pointless... The fact that COCOA applications are as slow is the problem. I didn't state that HW is slow, its the OS which makes it seem slow... try VISTA on a 2.6GHz duo Thinkpad... thats what I think of X... again I should know I have a ThinkPad R60 running this and it sucks balls, much like X.x anyhting on the G4 that I have and the MacPro which I tested. Who is going need that power running every day Apps... NO ONE!... Most apps could run satisfactory even in 16bit mode or 8 bit mode... Hell they were 3D applications that were for II/gs environment... say what... yes you heard me correct... Why is it that now the bloody things have a minimum memory requirment of 2-4GB or memory, its because all BS companies want your money so they put out shit software for you or others to buy, when in actual fact you could have done the same thing with your existing SW just as example. If you want to test speed. Go test a 8Core MacPRo RUNNING terminal with simple tasks like file listing etc, except search, would even seem laughable against my PC 386SX 25Mhz with 4MB ram and 40MB HD... running a command like DIR in 6.2.2 DOS Shell is QUICKER than doing ls in terminal on the MacPro... I'm mean that is not only a joke that is pathetic.... FACT cause I have that form of HW and wanted to prove to myself that certain tasks are by no means any faster under new hw than older HW or OS versioning... The reason why most jerk offs buy this new HD most of the time is to brag or just to get the satisfaction of having something like every other JO. I see that a lot with wankers that carry around their iPods/iPod nanos... its like they need to have that, so they are apart of something... but in reality they are no better off. Its an illusion which has manifested itself in their thinking and basically as made them in brainless none individualist sheep. The reason why HW has evolved is not so much for everyday usage its for big firms needing grunt. Again, these new HW may be great, but if your company can still make $5Mill in a year running OLD school Pre X pre PIV hardware... why waste the money? The argument is, the offering from Apple/M$ and others even Adobe once looked to make software for spead and efficency. Now all these dicks are intersted in Freaking FAT icons... cause like everyone here knows its these FACT 32bit icons which make up the app... They are made for the build/kids... I mean why have a resolution at 2400 x 1900 when these icons take half your screen real estate... utter BS gimmick. What a load of shit! That's something you tell an uneducated idiot! I prefer the speed of Adobe Reader 4.5 against version 8 any day! People that make money especially in large engineering firms don't use that crap. They mostly use pre x86 Sun or pre x86 SGI boxes... each with their respective UNIX flavor... Solaris and IRIX. These OS's don't look grand but they get the job done and their bloody efficient in terms of speed, memory usage and everything... just like OLD school Mac, Amiga, Atari etc apps... WHICH MATTERS when your making money not jerking off admiring the desktop and its drop shadow effects But then again, anyone reading this has their own view upon things. I'm made a call in saying 7.6.1 or even when I run 7.5.5 on the 7200 runs like a gun. Getting the job done is what matters, and if I can get a engineering contract running 7.6.1 running Form-Z 2.4 against a newly polished Mac which would cost me money - something a smart person doesn't want to waste, then why not, its not the extra GUI BS which overloads your GC/CPU and Memory make me money. The G4 thing is there due to the fact that I wanted the lasted original Macintosh that would run a decent OS not X (aka skin deep looks).
9 New Member Welcome / ... Your profile states others... January 23, 2009, 09:56	If you actually had old Mac models which ran 7, and not under emulation, than your occupation in your profile would to me seem different... Having an occupation as a University student, and acquiring more than two dozon Macintosh models by 2008 which do run 7 seems to me a little strange. I think your lying.
10 Feedback & Ideas / ??? January 23, 2009, 09:37	then why have you got a System7today website?... Aren't you the admin for the site... You should have done one for X apps, and let someone else do CLASSIC aka yester years OS System 7 AKA COOL stuff. And if you read my proposition... well, this can be applied to X or PC/Micro$oft, Palm, and any other variant, the difference is in FILE TYPE/CREATOR CODE, which is Pre Leopard on Mac specific. A tendency which Leopard has dropped and HElll... i went back to 8.3 days just like good old DOS. Now I can rename my files with the .exe extension and unless it has a file type/creator code, kindly changes its file icon to PC, and launches Virtual PC on me... fasinating. I though X was meant to be a smart cookie... obviously NOT!
11 Feedback & Ideas / ALOT is missing from MOST download locat January 22, 2009, 11:38	ALOT is missing from MOST download locations, that's because most of the time it is manual input by the web master or a small group of people. What you have in info-mac is just a subset... search through it and you'll see what I mean. If it were a dedicated DB much like the one I'm proposing, I basically wouldn't require qoogle with the search query 'mac classic software' or 'mac software'... to search for more items. Such search engines now mostly bring back devoted MacOS X stuff. NOT what I'm interested in. And again I get a billion and one links... try going through those one by one... a waste of time If you also do a cross examination between MIT info-mac, and many more others, you'll note that neither have each others software. Again, Why would anyone want to waste their time searching across multiple channels just to find stuff. Isn't the idea of the net to find something quick and painlessly... If someone actually took a step back and looked at the constructs of the Internet NOW, they would hide... I've been using it for nearly 20 years. There are billions of multi duplicated sites, and none have * ALL * that you require. And I mean ALL . The same can be said about e-commerce sites... type in 'SCSI 160 Mac' and there are 500,000+ sites... and If you were wanting to find the best bargain again, its near to impossible. The INTERNET has no structure, and it was formed out of patch up jobs... Anyone can see this via the multitude of browser incompatibilities that even today we have... unless you actually still write HTML 1.0 standard! To answer your question. I'm a person that is looking to obtain MOST if NOT * ALL * the software made available either freeware/shareware/demo or otherwise that can run on II/gs, Newton, and classic Mac. These include all variations. The one thing that I found that info-mac and these other so called software locations don't have is descent Science and technology stuff or even past Adobe great DEMO's like After Effects & Premier 4.5 for PPC under 9.x... I mean I couldn't care less about Alladin Stuffit, Graphics Converter, and other small branded apps... I wanted hard core science Applications that actually do something constructive... like expanding my knowledge or $$$ through using it in business, not waste it playing wanking DOOM/QUAKE/HL games and other crap, but I know someone else might want these games also. So, in saying so, The proposition is quite straight forward - HAVE EVERYTHING AND ALL! through the following logical procedure. - Have an automated process of discovering websites that have downloads, may they be archie, ftp, afp, http, direct ip, etc. This again might come from the horses mouth, as even google, yahoo don't have every possible link... sometimes you just happen to come across something by chance ... like CLICKING a web link from another site - Store those locations in a lookup table and have a routine scheduled job to search those sites every so often for new stuff - With the downloaded software, categorise them by Author, software and Version, even to the extent of checking its type, eg. 'APPL', 'INIT', CDEF' and others and 'pkg ' for Newton and the likes. these again can be used for users to find Note: A folder action can be attached to the downloaded folder to check the newly decompressed file and scan its folder content for type... even Platform dependence... eg. IS it FAT, is it CFM-68k, is it PPC is it 68k - 68000/68010/68020/6830/68040, is it pro dos 8/16bit, is it a Newton package??? - Organise these in a directory structure according to the requirements above and give the names a descent naming convention... like stuffit_expender_3.5.x.bin which would reside under Alladin Inc/Stuffit Expander/stuffit_expender_3.5.x.bin This is after you have decompressed the downloaded software which may have been .zip, .sit or .cpio, .z, .img, .image, and any other other compressed type. The file ite self can also have the the desription abut the software in its Descrtiption tag... the one that one see when doing Get Info... (only 255 chars though, so you might actually obtain this from the file itself as it has Extra file properties) - have all files stored in .bin hex format as this is native to Mac and doesn't require stuffit... maybe have the oldest most universal .bin format, as again it will be accessible across multi OS's - have a web service API which would allow third party to delve into your DB... the DB could be a simple XML file or even true DB in nature... seeing that your running of Appleshare or maybe macHTTP it could even be more advanced. This would allow them to reference your DB in an alligent way and present it under their own Web skin (GUI). Like I said, you could get some top notch commission out of this as it would be akin to Google/Yahoo, but ONLY for Macintosh or PRE X (aka COOL software) I mean if I would have the time to do something like this it would be via Filemaker pro. And again in saying this, present the Filemaker pro web view to users like myself with restrictions of course, that just use the internet purely for the means to obtain stuff... without the searching hassel either through google, yahoo, altivista and any other... Hope this gets your imagination going... There is nothing like this out there, cause if there were I would'nt be proposing it. And th reason why I'm proposing it here, Cause at least you run from a dedicated Mac Server and Server pltaform - Apple Share IP:)
12 Feedback & Ideas / Not System 7 Today links... January 21, 2009, 17:12	When I was referring to broken links, I was referring to all those sites that have a list of LINKS that state downloads and they turn out to be long gone... I guess the Net bubble in 2000 caused alot of well known companies to flake... The Original Guys that did Poser3D, Bryce3D... and many many others come to mind... All of the CEO;'s of those companies after the BS new world web consultancy idea... all pile of crap really... the internet has become a real tangled mess... I mean, yes it is called THE WEB... but even a spiders web is structured... the current internet as we know it as THE WEB is CHAOS... Doing a search on anything gets you a billion hits... I mean how the hell you mean to find anything meaning full if there is some much info... Information overload if you ask me. The reason why I proposed the DB idea is not so much in degrading info-mac or any other site like that, the idea is to somehow compliment those. See, if you were to take all the software titles that out there... all those sites having software for downloads and some of them are specific the certain pages/companies/individuals, what you would have is a massive portal to all the software... Someone off the street so to speak can basically go to one single website and download all that is required, without searching days/nights for what he/she want. Believe me, if your a Mac 7.x advocate and you want to save some pretty cool software, the only way is to save all that's out there, before you get a 404 error, and you can not find that software again. Same goes for Apple II/GS, Newton Mac OS 6 - 9.2.2 guys and others. I'm not really interested in X... as I did mention I really detest it like the epidemic. thats a thought... oh, and in making this portal, what you would then have is a webservice interface, so other websites can basically piggy back from one central point, but just put their skin(gui) web look... eg, have clients like download.com, tucows.com etc reading from one download DB which would be a massive... you might even charge commision for using your extensive DB listing... Trust me info-mac ain't big, and it really doesn't have * ALL * mac classic software... Like I said I downloaded the full ftp site plus others like MIT, the original TU-mac ftp... the web has plently more... That is why I proposed my idea. This is a cool site, and making a specific application based DB that run under all 7.x variations would be awesome. I guess you could in effect the same principle to Apple II/gs, Newton.
13 Classifieds / SCSI CD roms January 21, 2009, 13:22	Dude, check these guys out https://www.recycledgoods.com/ a lot and a lot of stuff...
14 Hardware / SCSI Controller cards for 7.5.5 - 7.6.x January 16, 2009, 11:21	What is the latest SCSI controller cards that I can use on the 7200 running 7.5.5 - 7.6.x? I was thinking of getting the Adaptec 39160 Dual Channel Ultra-160 SCSI for Mac which I'm told requires 8.6 but I'm sure it may even be compatible with 7.5.5 at least. Anyone had know?
15 Hardware / Firewire/USB external or Internal HD January 16, 2009, 10:50	To get certain Firewire/USB external or Internal HD seen by MacOS you need the MassStorage Master Drivers... I ended up having a Copy for the USB/Firewire IBM Externall HD that I linked up to my G4... I have a copy. These were needed even for MacOS 9.2.2 which I have on the G4... I have not played with them on my 7200, but will try...
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